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Subject: ZYDS Bronfman, Radwansky, Bnai Brith,and ShabbasGoy McVay - All JEWED TAX DEPARTMENT
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Prominent ZYDS/jews in Kanada, such as Bronfman, Radwansky, plus now even Bnai
Brith,as well as  even the  ShabbasGoy for ZYDS  McVay - All have JEWED the
Canadian TAX DEPARTMENT, just like ZYDS have been 
caught cheating the IRS in the USA.

It seems that people complaining, must be jealous because
ZYDS are smart enough to pay off the appropriate officials.

Look up in the OED for a definition of "jewed".

As you and your honest colleagues paid your taxes to Extortion Canada,
think on this:

THE BRONFMAN ZYDS EVADED PAYING THEIR PROPER $1,500 MILLION IN TAXES!

RADWANSKY, ANOTHER @#*  DID NOT PAY HIS HALF MILLION IN TAXES!

BNAI BRITH IS MONEY LAUNDERING FOR THEIR SHABBAS-GOY'S ONE MAN
ADVERTISING BUSINESS, OPERATED BY FAG KEN MCVAY, AND GIVING 
FRAUDULENT CHARITY DONATION RECEIPTS FOR HIS BUSINESS!!

So now you know why goyim must pay taxes, to support the ZYDS!!

Time for CRA to start to nail and prosecute severely all the crooked ZYDS and
their shills.


Radwanski hiring repaid favour, report says
Former watchdog had access to PM Interview answers given in advance

GRAHAM FRASER
NATIONAL AFFAIRS WRITER

OTTAWA—Former privacy commissioner George Radwanski ordered his
executive director to hire the daughter of then prime minister Jean
Chrétien's secretary in order to repay a favour, according to the
Public Service Commission report.

Radwanski was politically indebted to the woman's mother because she
helped him gain access to Chrétien, the Commission was told.

To ensure the woman got the job, the executive director gave the
candidate the questions and the answers to a written test, which the
Public Service Commission described as "a fraudulent practice."

Radwanski would not elaborate yesterday on the statement he gave to
the Public Service Commission in which he categorically denied the
allegation of political favouritism.

"I have no comment," Radwanski told the Toronto Star. "I just haven't
been commenting on any of this stuff, and I'm not going to start now."

In a special report on the Office of the Privacy Commissioner of
Canada, tabled in Parliament yesterday, the Public Service Commission
reported on its investigation into the hiring of Danielle Bondar as an
administrative assistant by Julien Delisle, then executive director of
the privacy commission.

"During his testimony at the investigation hearing, Mr. Delisle
indicated that Mr. Radwanski told him some time in 2001 to find
employment for Ms. Bondar, as he owed a favour to Ms. Bondar's mother,
Monique Bondar, a former secretary in the Prime Minister's Office, for
allowing him to have access to the Prime Minister," the report states.
"According to Mr. Delisle, Mr. Radwanski told him there would be
serious consequences for him if Mr. Delisle could not find a way to
appoint Ms. Bondar."

Monique Bondar, described as Chrétien's "gatekeeper and personal
confidante," was his private secretary for 17 years.

The board of inquiry that investigated Danielle Bondar's hiring
concluded "Ms. Bondar had participated with then-executive director
Julien Delisle in a fraudulent practice (that is, he provided her with
the questions and the expected answers to a written test)."

The board of inquiry also concluded that Danielle Bondar's appointment
should be revoked, and that she should not be appointed to another
position in the federal public service.

Maria Barados, president of the Public Service Commission, told
reporters the commission had sent a letter to the RCMP, telling them
what happened.

Last January, before the letter was sent, the RCMP confirmed they were
conducting a criminal investigation into the activities of the Office
of the Privacy Commissioner, but no charges have been laid.

Delisle, who joined the privacy commissioner's office in 1985, has
left the federal government.

Radwanski, who was appointed privacy commissioner by Chrétien in 2000,
resigned in June 2003 following revelations concerning his expenses.

A Commons committee revealed Radwanski owed Revenue Canada more than
$600,000 when he was appointed. He struck a deal with Revenue Canada
that allowed him to pay just $67,000 of the debt on the eve of his
appointment.

Perhaps Alan Baggett can get some friend who is a senior prosecutor
in S.I. of CCRA, to prosecute Radwanski for fraud?

Hopefully Radwanski will go to prison, on a flood of criminal charges,
rather than have Canadians JEWED again as with the BRONFMAN JEWS!!

The news reports today that Auditor-General of Canada Sheila Fraser
is asking for serious CRIMINAL investigation into Radwanski.
In her TV presentation, she demanded RCMP prosecution for
embezzlement,as well as investigation into "a reign of terror"
in Radwanski' department.

Radwanski has been shown to have not only stolen public money, but
also wasted huge amounts, plus some of his friends whom he put on the
public payroll did likewise.

Radwanski, in same news story is crying that this is a witch hunt,
because he illegally spent half a million wining and dining with his
girl friend, at taxpayer cost.

The fraud involved in him getting the tax department to write off
$540,000 taxes he owed, the day before he gets a job paying $210,000
plus expenses, as well as all his other crimes on the job,he ignores.

Hopefully, for this filthy ZHID, he will not be able to do a BRONFMAN,
and will go to jail, plus have to pay the taxes owing!!

You know, it seems that the filthy ZHIDS, whether BRONFMAN or
RADWANSKY, think that the rest of the honest Canadian taxpayers are
powerless to make them pay their fair share of taxes.

Now is the time to have honest MPs such as John Williams, and the
Auditor-General of Canada, teach Radwansky that there are still SOME
people in Canada who refuse to kiss Zhid tuchus!!


From: canadasrevenueagency@yahoo.com (Alan Baggett)
Newsgroups: can.taxes,can.general
Subject: Radwanski hiring repaid favour, report says
Date: 21 Oct 2004 13:26:18 -0700

Here's the link:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_
Type1&c=Article&cid=1098222610542&call_pageid=968332188774&col=968350116467

Why should the filthy JEWS not have to pay their taxes, when the rest
of normal people have to pay - or else??

 As the expression goes, if swindled once, shame on you.
 Swindled twivce, shame on me.

 The Canadian taxpayers should not be JEWED, like with the BRONFMANS,
 AGAIN!!


> > > > On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 09:55:52 -0600, Susan Cohen 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Hopefully, the Government will overturn the write-off of the $540,000
> > > > Income Taxes he didn't pay, and take some of it out of the $80,000
> > > > severance he is claiming!!

> > > > The rest should come from sale of his luxury home in Toronto.
> > > > Who does Radwansky think he is - a BRONFMAN?
> > > > Only BRONFMANS are allowed to JEW the Tax Department!!

> > > >On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:34:37 -0600, Sara Salzman 
> > > >wrote:
> > > >Now that he was caught, squandering millions on trips for himself and
> > > >his female companion, he gets to futher JEW Canadian taxpayers for
> > > >another $80,000 in severance!!

> > > >He should be prosecuted and jailed, instead.

> > > >No doubt his criminal friends will see this as another attack on their
> > > >favourite minority.

>> > >>On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:57:01 -0600, Molester McVay 
>> > >>wrote:
>> > >>Newsgroups: can.general,can.taxes,soc.culture.canadian
>> > >>ab.politics,tor.general
>> > >>Subject: Radwanski JEWS C.C.R.A.-Gets $220,000 yearly!!
>> > >>>From: Kenny 
>> > >>>Newsgroups: can.gov,can.legal,can.taxes
>> > >>>Subject: Disgusting news: RevCan forgave Radwanski Tax Debt 1 Day
>> > >>>Prior to Appointment!
>> > >>>Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:08:58 GMT

>> > >>>Commish gets a break

>> > >>>Revenue Canada forgave $540G in debt on day before appointment
>> > >>>By GREG WESTON and PHILIP-LEE SHANOK -- Sun Media

>> > >>>ONE DAY before George Radwanski was given his $210,000-a-year
>> > >>>patronage appointment as Canada's privacy commissioner, Revenue
>> > >>>Canada forgave $540,000 he owed the federal government after
>> > >>>years of not paying taxes, according to documents obtained by
>> > >>>the Sun. A longtime communications consultant to Jean Chretien
>> > >>>and other clients, Radwanski filed for bankruptcy protection in
>> > >>>1999 with only one registered creditor -- the federal tax department.

>> > >>>Documents indicate that on July 26, 2000, Revenue Canada wiped out
>> > >>>Radwanski's tax bills totalling $606,947 for only $67,726 in
>> > >>>payments from him.
>> > >>>The next day, Chretien appointed Radwanski privacy commissioner
>> > >>>for a seven-year term.

>> > >>>Chretien's senior adviser Eddie GOLDENBERG says neither he nor
>> > >>>the prime minister "knew anything about a bankruptcy" until the
>> > >>>Sun called the PM's office yesterday.
>> > >>>Radwanski told the Sun he had never mentioned his tax problems
>> > >>>nor his insolvency to anyone in government prior to his appointment
>> > >>>as privacy commissioner.

>> > >>>"I had some issues with Revenue Canada and they were resolved by
>> > >>>mutual agreement in a totally appropriate way. End of story," he said.
>> > >>>"This had absolutely nothing to do with any dealings with the
>> > >>>government (other than Revenue Canada) or anything else."
>> > >>>Chretien's appointment of Radwanski put the former deadbeat taxpayer
>> > >>>in charge of public funds totalling $11 million a year, and gave him
>> > >>>access to virtually unlimited expense accounts.

>> > >>>From a bankruptcy that cost taxpayers more than a half-million dollars,
>> > >>>Radwanski's life certainly changed for the better -- thanks to the
>> > >>>same Canadian taxpayers.

>> > >>>In less than three years since his appointment, Radwanski has collected
>> > >>>almost $600,000 in salary, $54,000 in rent for his Ottawa apartment,
>> > >>>$93,000 in executive air trips home to Toronto on weekends, $290,000
>> > >>>in travel expenses -- including 19 foreign trips -- more than $11,000
>> > >>>worth of wining and dining at some of the fanciest restaurants in
>> > >>>Ottawa and, of course, he has a chauffeur.

>> > >>>A Commons committee investigating Radwanski is expected to call for
>> > >>>his resignation over his high-flying lifestyle on the public tab, and
>> > >>>over allegations he altered documents and lied to the committee.

>> > >>>But Radwanski's huge tax delinquency, and subsequent agreements with
>> > >>>Revenue Canada, are bound to shift the growing controversy to the
>> > >>>circumstances surrounding how he got his plum posting.

>> > >>>Documents show that Radwanski filed for personal bankruptcy protection
>> > >>>on Dec. 2, 1999, "primarily as a result of a decrease in earnings from
>> > >>>his consulting practice and non-filing of tax returns over a period of
>> > >>>years."

>> > >>>He reported his only assets were a $255,000 house in Toronto, $3,000
>> > >>>in furniture, $4,000 in RRSPs, and a 1984 Peugeot worth $500.
>> > >>>On the other side of the balance sheet, the TD Bank held a $205,000
>> > >>>mortgage on the house, and Revenue Canada was claiming "approximately
>> > >>>$500,000" in unpaid taxes.

>> > >>>GOT TO KEEP HOUSE
>> > >>>Radwanski said he was making about $11,000 a month from consulting
>> > >>>contracts with two clients.

>> > >>>There is no mention of any offer to become privacy commissioner in
>> > >>>insolvency documents.
>> > >>>At a meeting of creditors on Jan. 18, 2000, Revenue Canada agreed to
>> > >>>wipe out Radwanski's tax bills -- eventually listed as $557,436 --
>> > >>>for a payment of $62,726.

>> > >>>Radwanski got to keep his house, and the government would eventually
>> > >>>agree, as part of his deal as privacy commissioner, to give him
>> > >>>weekly, executive-class, round-trip airfare between Ottawa and Toronto
>> > >>>so he could visit his home on weekends.

>> > >>>On Feb. 29, a notice was issued that Radwanski's deal with the tax
>> > >>>department would be presented to a Superior Court judge on April 11
>> > >>>for approval.

>> > >>>But about the same time, Radwanski's name was apparently being
>> > >>>officially floated in Ottawa as the Liberal government's choice
>> > >>>for privacy commissioner.

>> > >>>Conservative Leader Peter MacKay, who was then his party's House
>> > >>>leader, later recalled in an interview that "people raised concerns
>> > >>>then (in February 2000), not just me," about the appointment reeking
>> > >>>of patronage.

>> > >>>Radwanski said yesterday that as far as he was concerned, the
>> > >>>insolvency proceedings were over the day his deal with the taxman
>> > >>>was approved in January 2000, and had nothing to do with any
>> > >>>discussions about his subsequent appointment.

>> > >>>SECOND FILING
>> > >>>On March 24, 2000, at least a month after his nomination had been
>> > >>>proposed to the House leaders, Radwanski filed for a second bankruptcy
>> > >>>protection, this one for a company called 1131652 Ontario Inc., also
>> > >>>known as Synergetics Consulting Group Inc.

>> > >>>Like the first filing, this insolvency "was precipitated as a result
>> > >>>of certain tax liabilities" -- another $49,511 that Radwanski had
>> > >>>failed to pay to Revenue Canada.

>> > >>>On April 18, with Radwanski's corporate assets listed as zero, Revenue
>> > >>>Canada again agreed to wipe out the nearly $50,000 owing in back taxes
>> > >>>-- this time for payment of only $5,000.
>> > >>>That deal was sealed by the courts in June of that year.
>> > >>>Finally, documents show Radwanski and his company had officially
>> > >>>discharged their debts to the tax department on July 26, 2000.
>> > >>>The next day, a cabinet order was issued, naming Radwanski as
>> > >>>privacy commissioner.

>> > >>>George Radwanski's lifestyle, then and now:
>> > >>>THEN: Projected monthly figures for January 2000*:
>> > >>>Income (after taxes): $7,250
>> > >>>Mortgage payment: $1,830
>> > >>>Insurance: (health, house, life, car) $1,000
>> > >>>Food: $700
>> > >>>Education expense: $650
>> > >>>Laundry/dry cleaning/toiletries: $200
>> > >>>Utilities, phone/cable: $700
>> > >>>Transportation (car, parking, taxis): $400
>> > >>>Clothing: $400
>> > >>>Household upkeep: $400
>> > >>>Entertainment/Miscellaneous: $250
>> > >>>* figures obtained from court documents prepared in accordance
>> > >>>with the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act

>> > >>>NOW**:
>> > >>>Monthly income (before taxes): $18,000 (based on annual salary of
>> > >>>$216,600,plus perks)
>> > >>>Second residency allowance (after tax): $1,200 (paid by taxpayers
>> > >>>by special secret deal with Privy Council Office)
>> > >>>Transportation: Chauffeured car
>> > >>>Lunch: $210 at Ottawa's Ritz 3 restaurant
>> > >>>Dinner: $444 at La Panache, Hull
>> > >>>Travel for 2001: $110,042
>> > >>>Travel for 2002: $177,040
>> > >>>Hospitality costs for 2002: $7,186
>> > >>>Tuxedo rentals for 2002: $400 for two nights
>> > >>>Weekly flight home to Toronto from Ottawa: About $1,000 (paid by
>> > >>>taxpayers by special secret deal with Privy Council Office)
>> > >>>Ten-day trip to London and Cardiff for conference and speaking
>> > >>>engagements: $16,327

>> > >>>IT SEEMS THE CANADIAN TAX DEPARTMENT - C.C.R.A.
>> > >>>GOT BRONFMAN'D AGAIN = JEWED!!

>> > >>>Who got paid off this time, since Gravelle is no longer there?
>> > >>>Perhaps  Deep Throat CAN WHISTLE BLOW THIS CASE WIDE OPEN???
>> > >>>What did Finance Minister Elinor Caplan(JEW) have to do
>> > >>>with the tax scam write-off?


> >john.poindexter@wowmail.com (John Poindexter) wrote in message 
news:...
> > Perhaps your John Williams,MP, could get the RCMP and the
> > Auditor-General of Canada on this matter, and collect the half-million
> > from Radwanski.

> > As the expression goes, if swindled once, shame on you.
> > Swindled twivce, shame on me.

> > The Canadian taxpayers should not be JEWED, like with the BRONFMANS,
> > AGAIN!!


> > > > On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 09:55:52 -0600, Susan Cohen 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Hopefully, the Government will overturn the write-off of the $540,000
> > > > Income Taxes he didn't pay, and take some of it out of the $80,000
> > > > severance he is claiming!!

> > > > The rest should come from sale of his luxury home in Toronto.
> > > > Who does Radwansky think he is - a BRONFMAN?
> > > > Only BRONFMANS are allowed to JEW the Tax Department!!

> > > >On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:34:37 -0600, Sara Salzman 
> > > >wrote:
> > > >Now that he was caught, squandering millions on trips for himself and
> > > >his female companion, he gets to futher JEW Canadian taxpayers for
> > > >another $80,000 in severance!!

> > > >He should be prosecuted and jailed, instead.

> > > >No doubt his criminal friends will see this as another attack on their
> > > >favourite minority.


Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


 wrote:

HENRY FORD (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921): Jews have
always controlled the business. . . The motion picture influence of
the United States and Canada . . . is exclusively under the control,
moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public mind.

At one time, anti-Semites were considered to be people who did not like Jews.
Now, anti-Semites are people whom the Jews don't like.  Jews use the term as a
weapon to smear people who for one reason or another they don't like. They use
it to keep politicians in line who might otherwise stray from the Jewish
agenda and they  use it to label revisionists as 'holocaust deniers' I have
been "branded by the Jews" and am proud to be in the esteemed company of the
following:

T.S. Eliot; Norman Finkelstein; Father Coughlin; 
John Wayne;  Joseph P. Kennedy; Charles Lindburgh;
George Lincoln Rockwell; Marlon Brando; Robert Mitchum; 
Richard Nixon; Henry Ford Sr.; Walt Disney; David Irving;
H.L. Mencken; Kurt Waldheim; Napoleon; Bismarck; Claudis;
Voltaire; George Ball; Israel Shahak; Joe Sobran; Gerald L.K. Smith;
Karl Marx; William Dudley Pelley; Cicero; Heinriche Heine;
Oswald Mosley; Rowland Evans; Robert Novak; Anthony Lewis; Charles Dickens;
Patrick Buchanan; Benjamin Friedman; Martin Luther; Mahomet;
Bruno Bauer;  Elizabeth Dilling; Senator Burton Wheeler

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.




From emiltheidiot@marathonsrun.org Fri Sep  5 11:29:29 EDT 2008
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From: Emil Tirades 
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Subject: ZYD Ritual Murder of Children/Ritual Morder der Kinder - Documented
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ZYD/Ivrai  Ritual Moerder der Kinder / ZYD Ritual Murder of Children - Well
Documented
No wonder  so many good Christian people really dislike the filthy  ZYDs 
known as Christkillers, still after more than 2000 years!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

ZYD/JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; 
BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  Their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 


On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide.

>On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir
>lfdsjsafd"  wrote:

>BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>THE BLOOD ACCUSATION.

>Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

> Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>(Gaume et Freres, 1845).

> Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

> Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>1853-4).

> Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

> Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>Sons).

> Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

> Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

> A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into
>England, by William Prynne, 1656.

> Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

> Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>Cathedral.

> La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

> Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>devoted to Ritual Murders.

> Le Mystère du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

> Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

> Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

> Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

> Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

> Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
>representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."

> Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

> Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>valuable historical record.

> The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

> Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>439-468, and 628.
>References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>are made in the text when describing these cases.

>To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)

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Haaretz Daily
Last update - 13:57 20/03/2008

In Russia's third largest city, the blood libel is resurfacing

By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

The blood libel is alive and well in certain circles in Russia. Dozens of
posters have appeared of late in Russia's third largest city, warning
residents to keep a close eye on their children as Passover approaches, lest
they fall victim to Jews seeking to make matzah out of their blood.

The posters, adhered to the walls of houses in the Siberian city of
Novosibirsk, warn: "These vermin are still performing rituals, stealing
small children and draining their blood to make their sacred bread."

They also link a recent spate of child disappearances and murders to Jewish
ritual sacrifices. 
 
The blood libel claims that Jews use the blood of gentiles - particularly
gentile children - to make ritual unleavened bread for Passover. It has been
around for centuries, prevalent primarily in Europe where it was used to
stir up violence and harsh reprisals against the Jewish community.

Amos Herman, Chairman of the Jewish Agency's branch responsible for fighting
anti-Semitism stated that "We are certain that the government of Russia will
find the perpetrators of this crime and solve this problem once and for
all." 

The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia recently expressed concern
about the rise in attacks targeting Jews, calling it part of "a recent surge
in anti-Semitic manifestations" in Russia.

In 2007, 67 people were killed and more than 550 injured in ethnically
motivated attacks, according the SOVA rights center, which monitors hate
crimes. 

According to varying estimates, between 300,000 and 1.5 million Jews live in
the nation of 142 million. After an exodus in the years before and after
1991 Soviet collapse, the Jewish community is experiencing a moderate
revival, with new synagogues, schools and cultural centers being built
across the country.

During the Soviet era, thousands of Jews were imprisoned or executed as part
of nationwide purges, and many more were forced to conceal their Jewish
identity. 

Resurgence of the blood libel

Last year, Professor Ariel Toaff of Bar-Ilan University ignited a storm of
controversy when he published a book in Italy alleging that there is a
factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.

Toaff stood by his findings published in the book "Pasque di Sangue", but
said he was sorry his arguments had been twisted and later released a
revised edition of the book that clarified that Jews were not involved in
ritualized murder in medieval Europe.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966611.html

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Haaretz Daily
Last update - 13:57 20/03/2008

In Russia's third largest city, the blood libel is resurfacing

By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

The blood libel is alive and well in certain circles in Russia. Dozens of
posters have appeared of late in Russia's third largest city, warning
residents to keep a close eye on their children as Passover approaches, lest
they fall victim to Jews seeking to make matzah out of their blood.

The posters, adhered to the walls of houses in the Siberian city of
Novosibirsk, warn: "These vermin are still performing rituals, stealing
small children and draining their blood to make their sacred bread."

They also link a recent spate of child disappearances and murders to Jewish
ritual sacrifices. 
 
The blood libel claims that Jews use the blood of gentiles - particularly
gentile children - to make ritual unleavened bread for Passover. It has been
around for centuries, prevalent primarily in Europe where it was used to
stir up violence and harsh reprisals against the Jewish community.

Amos Herman, Chairman of the Jewish Agency's branch responsible for fighting
anti-Semitism stated that "We are certain that the government of Russia will
find the perpetrators of this crime and solve this problem once and for
all." 

The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia recently expressed concern
about the rise in attacks targeting Jews, calling it part of "a recent surge
in anti-Semitic manifestations" in Russia.

In 2007, 67 people were killed and more than 550 injured in ethnically
motivated attacks, according the SOVA rights center, which monitors hate
crimes. 

According to varying estimates, between 300,000 and 1.5 million Jews live in
the nation of 142 million. After an exodus in the years before and after
1991 Soviet collapse, the Jewish community is experiencing a moderate
revival, with new synagogues, schools and cultural centers being built
across the country.

During the Soviet era, thousands of Jews were imprisoned or executed as part
of nationwide purges, and many more were forced to conceal their Jewish
identity. 

Resurgence of the blood libel

Last year, Professor Ariel Toaff of Bar-Ilan University ignited a storm of
controversy when he published a book in Italy alleging that there is a
factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.

Toaff stood by his findings published in the book "Pasque di Sangue", but
said he was sorry his arguments had been twisted and later released a
revised edition of the book that clarified that Jews were not involved in
ritualized murder in medieval Europe.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966611.html


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
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Documented
No wonder  so many good Christian people really dislike the filthy  ZYDs 
known as Christkillers, still after more than 2000 years!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

ZYD/JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; 
BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  Their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 


On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide.

>On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir
>lfdsjsafd"  wrote:

>BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>THE BLOOD ACCUSATION.

>Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

> Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>(Gaume et Freres, 1845).

> Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

> Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>1853-4).

> Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

> Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>Sons).

> Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

> Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

> A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into
>England, by William Prynne, 1656.

> Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

> Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>Cathedral.

> La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

> Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>devoted to Ritual Murders.

> Le Mystère du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

> Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

> Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

> Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

> Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

> Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
>representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."

> Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

> Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>valuable historical record.

> The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

> Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>439-468, and 628.
>References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>are made in the text when describing these cases.

>To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)

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In Russia's third largest city, the blood libel is resurfacing

By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

The blood libel is alive and well in certain circles in Russia. Dozens of
posters have appeared of late in Russia's third largest city, warning
residents to keep a close eye on their children as Passover approaches, lest
they fall victim to Jews seeking to make matzah out of their blood.

The posters, adhered to the walls of houses in the Siberian city of
Novosibirsk, warn: "These vermin are still performing rituals, stealing
small children and draining their blood to make their sacred bread."

They also link a recent spate of child disappearances and murders to Jewish
ritual sacrifices. 
 
The blood libel claims that Jews use the blood of gentiles - particularly
gentile children - to make ritual unleavened bread for Passover. It has been
around for centuries, prevalent primarily in Europe where it was used to
stir up violence and harsh reprisals against the Jewish community.

Amos Herman, Chairman of the Jewish Agency's branch responsible for fighting
anti-Semitism stated that "We are certain that the government of Russia will
find the perpetrators of this crime and solve this problem once and for
all." 

The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia recently expressed concern
about the rise in attacks targeting Jews, calling it part of "a recent surge
in anti-Semitic manifestations" in Russia.

In 2007, 67 people were killed and more than 550 injured in ethnically
motivated attacks, according the SOVA rights center, which monitors hate
crimes. 

According to varying estimates, between 300,000 and 1.5 million Jews live in
the nation of 142 million. After an exodus in the years before and after
1991 Soviet collapse, the Jewish community is experiencing a moderate
revival, with new synagogues, schools and cultural centers being built
across the country.

During the Soviet era, thousands of Jews were imprisoned or executed as part
of nationwide purges, and many more were forced to conceal their Jewish
identity. 

Resurgence of the blood libel

Last year, Professor Ariel Toaff of Bar-Ilan University ignited a storm of
controversy when he published a book in Italy alleging that there is a
factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.

Toaff stood by his findings published in the book "Pasque di Sangue", but
said he was sorry his arguments had been twisted and later released a
revised edition of the book that clarified that Jews were not involved in
ritualized murder in medieval Europe.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966611.html

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Haaretz Daily
Last update - 13:57 20/03/2008

In Russia's third largest city, the blood libel is resurfacing

By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

The blood libel is alive and well in certain circles in Russia. Dozens of
posters have appeared of late in Russia's third largest city, warning
residents to keep a close eye on their children as Passover approaches, lest
they fall victim to Jews seeking to make matzah out of their blood.

The posters, adhered to the walls of houses in the Siberian city of
Novosibirsk, warn: "These vermin are still performing rituals, stealing
small children and draining their blood to make their sacred bread."

They also link a recent spate of child disappearances and murders to Jewish
ritual sacrifices. 
 
The blood libel claims that Jews use the blood of gentiles - particularly
gentile children - to make ritual unleavened bread for Passover. It has been
around for centuries, prevalent primarily in Europe where it was used to
stir up violence and harsh reprisals against the Jewish community.

Amos Herman, Chairman of the Jewish Agency's branch responsible for fighting
anti-Semitism stated that "We are certain that the government of Russia will
find the perpetrators of this crime and solve this problem once and for
all." 

The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia recently expressed concern
about the rise in attacks targeting Jews, calling it part of "a recent surge
in anti-Semitic manifestations" in Russia.

In 2007, 67 people were killed and more than 550 injured in ethnically
motivated attacks, according the SOVA rights center, which monitors hate
crimes. 

According to varying estimates, between 300,000 and 1.5 million Jews live in
the nation of 142 million. After an exodus in the years before and after
1991 Soviet collapse, the Jewish community is experiencing a moderate
revival, with new synagogues, schools and cultural centers being built
across the country.

During the Soviet era, thousands of Jews were imprisoned or executed as part
of nationwide purges, and many more were forced to conceal their Jewish
identity. 

Resurgence of the blood libel

Last year, Professor Ariel Toaff of Bar-Ilan University ignited a storm of
controversy when he published a book in Italy alleging that there is a
factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.

Toaff stood by his findings published in the book "Pasque di Sangue", but
said he was sorry his arguments had been twisted and later released a
revised edition of the book that clarified that Jews were not involved in
ritualized murder in medieval Europe.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966611.html


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

or to kenMcVay@nizkor.org.

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Why Jews/ZYDs/Ivrai  Are Still a Real Problem, Simplified

Basically, people for the past more than 2000 years can not trust 
the Christkiller ZYDS/Ivrai/Jews !

On 12 Oct 2006 11:13:47 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Magnus"
 wrote:

Why Jews Are a Problem, Simplified

Contrary to what you have probably heard, Jews were the world's first
racists. They created racist ideas, as official doctrine, long before
Christianity or Islam existed.

Jews claimed that they were superior to all other humans [i.e. that
they were "The Chosen People"]. They did this mainly to keep
themselves apart from other groups of people so that their genetic
strain would not be 'polluted.'

Then, many years later, the French leader Napoleon 'freed' the Jews
[he granted them various rights that they did not previously have],
and Jews became part of White European society. Their bigoted, racist,
money-oriented ways did not endear them to the benevolent Europeans.

So-called "anti-Semitism" resulted from that gentile/Jewish contact in
Europe, and became the norm. European attitudes about Jews became
worse when Jews overtook Russia in 1917. That event resulted in, or at
least coincided with, a worldwide Jewish revolution. Within that
revolution, Jews tried different methods of conquering the gentile-
dominated world that had 'oppressed' them for years: some Jews tried
Communism, some tried global capitalism, some tried feminism, some
tried leftism. All such ideas were designed to weaken traditional
gentile culture so that Jews, as both a religion and a race by long
interbreeding among themselves, would never be 'oppressed' again.

Jews dominate the West today by controlling the media, Hollywood,
banking/finance, left-wing political causes, and other areas of
Western culture. They are smarter than gentiles as a rule, and are
much more ruthless and cunning. They do not have White morals; they do
not feel guilty about cheating a non-Jew. They are not White even
though they appear to be so. They are basically aliens living among
Whites. Some people have likened Jews to invaders from another planet
who look human; that description seems reasonable as a whole.

Furthermore, Jews see themselves as being in a perpetual war with non-
Jews. They are willing to go to further racial and political extremes
than gentiles, because they take that ongoing "war" with gentiles more
seriously than non-Jews do. Therefore, Jews will lie, cheat and steal
more readily than a non-Jew. This, in our opinion, makes Jews a
security risk within all Western countries.

Also, Jews are in deep, pathological denial about why gentiles do not
like them. A Jew will engage in lying to and swindling non-Jews, and
then will wonder with complete honesty why gentiles do not like Jews.
Jews seem unable to grasp the fact that their actions are unsavory to
gentiles. In fact, we suggest that this blindness of Jews to the many
unsavory aspects of Jewry is actually a form of mental illness,
although it will never be labeled as such.

While there are, no doubt, a few 'good' Jews in the West, their
numbers are very small. Jews cannot be counted on to preserve White
values since they are not White.

Jews are the greatest enemy of traditional Western culture.

********************

See the following for many links on Jews and Judaism:
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

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KenMcVay@nizkor.org.

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No wonder good people mistrust the  Christkiller ZYDS!

From: The Truth Seeker 

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
[Not forgetting KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL]

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:

>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!

>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  

>>>September 2004, page 86 

>>>Book Review

>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.

>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.

>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 

>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.

>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:

>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)

>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.

>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
-John Bryant


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Steven Horn (KCOM)
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(405) 524-0576

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
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They wish to destroy families!

On Mon, 19 May 2008 00:44:53 -0500, ,
Ramabriga  wrote:

http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com/2008/05/jews-run-homosexual-movement-in-america.html

Monday, May 5, 2008
Jews Run the Homosexual Movement in America;
Militant Homosexual Activism Led and Funded by People of Jewish Heritage


News from the West provides the evidence that a disproportionate number of the
most radical elements in the militant homosexual rights lobby are of Jewish
origin. . . .


Here is an exhaustive list proving, once and for all, that the radical
homosexual movement in the United States is a Jewish movement. Jews created it
and run it from top to bottom. They are pushing the perversion and degeneracy
that is spreading disease, sin and sickness through America like a wildfire.

-The West

Larry Kramer -- co-founder of "Act Up," a homosexual/AIDS activist
organization; co-founder of the Gay Men's Health Crisis

Alan Klein -- co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer Nation,
National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for the Gay & Lesbian
Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also co-founded the successful
multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM

Arnie Kantrowitz -- co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against
Defamation [GLAAD].

Jonathan D. Katz -- founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the largest
queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer political activist,
was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San Francisco branch].

Harvey Fierstein -- film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay activist.

Moisés Kaufman -- playwright and film director [The Laramie Project].

Israel Fishman -- founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now known as
the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of the American
Library Association], the world's first gay professional organization.

Bella Abzug and Edward Koch -- both Jewish -- the first members of the U.S.
House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning discrimination based
on sexual orientation [1974].

Winnie Stachelberg -- political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC]

Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans.

Tony Kushner -- gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright
[for Angels in America, 1992].

Len Hirsch -- president of the GLBT federal government employees group, GLOBE.

Meg Moritz, Ph.D. -- a Director and member of the Executive Committee of
GLAAD.
Barbara Raab -- an NBC-TV producer; a "Jewish lesbian feminist journalist,
writer."

Charles Kaiser [?] -- author & founding member of National Lesbian and Gay
Journalists Association [NLGJA].

David Goodstein -- owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate
[1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby.

Judy Wieder -- Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine.

Alison Bechdel [?] -- cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly comic
strip "Dykes to Watch Out For."

Kevin Koffler -- Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine.

Garrett Glaser -- National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA]
national board member.

Ronald Gold -- reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn the
American Psychiatric Association's policy that homosexuality is an illness.

Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany; founded one
of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific Humanitarian Committee;
coined the term "transvestism"; fled Nazi Germany.

Fred Hochberg -- deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business Administration;
co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].

Michael Berman -- member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors. Mitchell
Gold -- HRC Board Marty Lieberman -- HRC BoardAndy Linsky -- HRC BoardDana
Perlman -- HRC BoardAbby Rubenfeld -- HRC Board Andrew Tobias -- HRC Board
Lara Schwartz -- Senior Counsel, HRC Heather Wellman -- HRC Field Coordinator
Dan Furmansky -- HRC Senior Field Organizer, West Sally Green -- HRC Associate
Field Director

Rick Rosendall [?] -- President, Gay & Lesbian Activists Alliance of
Washington, DC.

Barney Frank -- member of U.S. Congress; helped create non-discriminatory
employment policies in all U.S. federal agencies

Kerry Lobel -- executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

Robin Margolis, American coordinator of the Bi Women's Cultural Alliance and
author [Bisexuality: A Practical Guide].

Evan Wolfson, Senior Staff Attorney, Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund
-- and -- the executive director of Freedom to Marry.

Jennifer Einhorn -- Communications Director, Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against
Defamation [GLAAD] Nancy Alpert [?] -- Treasurer, GLAAD Judy Gluckstern --
Board of Directors, GLAAD.Stephen M. Jacoby -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.Matt
Riklin -- Board, GLAADCarol Rosenfeld -- Board, GLAAD.William Weinberger --
Board, GLAAD Tanya Wexler -- Board, GLAAD. David Huebner -- GLAAD Counsel.

Richard Goldstein -- Village Voice writer on gay culture and politics

Ron Schlittler -- Director of Field & Policy, Parents and Friends of Lesbians
and Gays [PFLAG].

Craig Ziskin -- Deputy Director of Development, PFLAG.

Debra Weill -- Senior Field & Policy Coordinator, PFLAG.

Dody Goldstein -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

David Horowitz -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Shawn Frank -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Leon Weinstein -- Chair, Nominating Committee, PFLAG.

Kate Kendell [?], National Center for Lesbian Rights.

Gayle Rubin -- lesbian author/activist.

Hilary Rosen -- a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund; former
board co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign.

Roz Richter, American attorney and activist.

Bob Kunst -- long-time activist in gay and Jewish causes.

"Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network" [GLSEN]. Board co-chairs: Marty
Seldman, president

"National Gay & Lesbian Task Force" [NGLTF]. Board co-chairs: ..... Rachel
Rosen in Santa Fe, N.M Dave Fleischer -- Director of Training [political
training], NGLTF. Craig Hoffman -- Board of Directors, NGLTF. Beth Zemsky --
Board, NGLTF. Marsha C. Botzer -- Treasurer, NGLTF. Jeff Levi -- first, Levi
was NGTF's lobbyist, early 1980s [NGTF became NGLTF in 1985]. Later, he was
NGLTF executive director.

Bill Rubenstein, J.D. '86, developed the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights Project

Martin Duberman -- author/historian; founded the Center for Lesbian and Gay
Studies at the City University of New York.

Ben Schatz '81, J.D. '85, is executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical
Foundation.

Kevin Schaub, American; Executive Director and Dean of the Harvey Milk
Institute in San Francisco, the world's largest center for queer studies.

Sarah Schulman [1958- ], American playwright, novelist, and activist [one of
the founders of the Lesbian Avengers, a direct-action lesbian rights
organization].

Susan Spielman -- principal/head of Common Ground, an education/consulting
firm specializing in workplace sexual orientation education; her company has
worked with hundreds of U.S. organizations, helping them to implement domestic
partner benefits plans; co-author of the book Straight Talk About Gays in the
Workplace.

Gertrude Stein -- wrote the first openly lesbian novel, "Q.E.D.," in 1903, but
it was only published posthumously in 1950.

Rikki Streicher (1925-1994), American activist and businesswoman.

Michael Goff -- founded Out magazine in 1992.

Paulette Goodman -- founder of local chapter [Washington D.C.] of PFLAG and
served as President of the National PFLAG organization from 1988-1992.

Jeffrey Newman, American, president and COO of the Gay Financial Network;
president and CEO of out.com.

Jim Levin -- New York gay historian.

Barrett Brick -- GLAA [Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance] Treasurer.

Robin Tyler -- American comedian [born Arlene Chernick] who was the first
openly gay comic in North America; Tyler is also an activist who was the stage
producer for the first three gay marches on Washington and the national
protest coordinator for the "Stop Dr. Laura" campaign; she produces women's
comedy and music festivals, and operates a lesbian travel-tour company.

Dr. Bruce Voeller [1935?-1994] [?] American gay rights activist, molecular
biologist, physiologist, and AIDS researcher (pioneer in the use of
nonoxynol-9 as a spermicide); cofounder and first executive director of the
National Gay Task Force; creator of the Mariposa Foundation [an AIDS
prevention research organization].

Mark Elderkin [?] -- co-founded Gay.com.

Leroy Aarons -- American professor, journalist, and founder of the National
Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association (1990).

Dr. Donald I. Abrams -- American physician, HIV expert, medical marijuana
researcher, and past president of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.

Johnny Abush (1952-2000) -- [Canadian]; archivist of the International Jewish
GBLT Archives.

Roberta Achtenberg [1950- ]; civil rights lawyer and federal official;
appointed as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity by
President Bill Clinton in 1993.

Miriam Ben-Shalom [1948- ], American Army Reserves drill sergeant and gay
activist; in 1986 she won a ten-year legal battle with the Reserves when a
court ordered her reinstatement; founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual
Veterans Association [GLBVA] in 1990, serving as its first president.

Larry Brinkin, American gay activist who brought the first domestic
partnership lawsuit [against Southern Pacific Railroad, 1982].

Rob Eichberg, American psychologist, co-creator of National Coming Out Day
[October 11th].

Scott Evertz, American; in April 2001, President Bush appointed him to serve
as the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy [ONAP].

Gene Falk [?, Jewish name], American business executive; Senior Vice President
of the Showtime Digital Media Group; part of the team that launched and
marketed the U.S. TV series Queer as Folk; Chair of the Board of Directors of
the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Surina Kahn -- American lesbian activist.

Larry Kessler -- founding director in 1983 of the AIDS Action Committee of
Massachusetts, the largest AIDS support organization in New England.

Kathy Levinson -- American investor and philanthropist; serves on the board of
PlanetOut; also on NGLTF Board of Directors.

Judith Light -- actress, activist for gay causes.

David Mixner -- gay activist, political consultant; co-founder of the
Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles [MECLA], a group of wealthy gays
and lesbians who became influential in local politics; president Bill
Clinton's Special Liaison to the Gay-Lesbian Community.

Dan Savage -- American author of gay-themed books [The Kid: What Happened
After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant; Skipping Towards
Gomorrah: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Pursuit of Happiness in America] and
gay-themed- sex-advice columnist [Savage Love].

Susan Schuman, American executive vice-president and general manager of the
Planet Out gay and lesbian online service.

Scott Seomin, American entertainment media coordinator for the Gay & Lesbian
Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Jason Serinus [Jay Guy Nassberg] -- founder and coordinator of the Lavender
Healing Network; a former gay activist with the New York chapter of the Gay
Liberation Front.

David Sine [?] -- American CEO of C1TV, the first U.S. gay and lesbian cable
TV network.

Rex Wockner -- longtime gay, American journalist who has reported news for the
gay press since 1985.

Jack Fritscher -- became Editor in Chief of Drummer gay magazine [1977].

Leslie Feinberg [1949- ], American trade unionist, transgender activist and
author [Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of Arc to RuPaul].

Allan Ginsburg - late Jewish poet and leading member of North American Man Boy
Love Association



Anonymous said...

     Found this on Rense.com. Great info!
     May 5, 2008 2:08 PM



Anonymous said...

     Let me guess. Is this what they did in 1920s Germany?
     May 5, 2008 2:50 PM



Joseph Capp said...

     This is absolute nonsense. "Jews" in New York have been at the forefront
of many protest movements and Homosexual Jews are many times ostracized from
the strict fundamentalist Jewish families. I am not a Jew or homosexual. But
the friends I have who happened to be I would rather have around my children
these friends, then the likes of you.
     Joseph Capp
     UFO Media Matters
     Non-Commercial Blog
     May 5, 2008 2:53 PM



curt maynard said...

     Joseph Capp, you are one or more of the following three things:

     Stupid, Delusional, or Complicit.
     May 5, 2008 3:08 PM



Charles Fockaert said...

     So much for homosexuals staying in the privacy of bedrooms where their
perversions were nobody's business but their own. Now they are in our face
with their abnormality. And this guy Capp would rather his kids be around
these types than heterosexuals? What if we all became queer? What then of
civilization?
     May 5, 2008 3:26 PM



Anonymous said...

     Mr. Capp is the ideal man for the 21st century--a vocal advocate for the
complete disintegration of his own country--no, his entire culture! A man who
would rather hand his own children to these perverts and destroyers than have
them be in the presence of those with a healthy sense of race, history &
current events.
     May 5, 2008 5:54 PM



Carlito B. said...

     This doesn't surprise me at all. Shine the light of truth on any movement
or industry that has been destroying the fabric of our society and you will
find the tribe members in leadership positions. Prove me wrong!
     May 5, 2008 6:40 PM



Anonymous said...

     Well we knew that was going to happen.
     May 5, 2008 7:22 PM



Anonymous said...

     The Broad Brush of this could also relate that Jeff Rense is part of the
Jewish conspiracy as he is in media and is a Californian with ties to gay
supporting Disney.
     What this could be studied for is why is it that somes Jews have
abandoned
their Torah roots and then sought leadership positions against their own
faith?
     What is it in this community which is causing this as Apache Indians
aren't in the same numbers.

     There is a difference between hammering all Jews and researching
historically how adept Jews were as a group at succeeding. Once upon a time in
America Jews were banned from the cloth industry by law. In turn, they went
into rags and dominated that recycling venue and made it an industry.
     Sometimes Jews went into media and dominated that to the great benefit of
America. All Americans can enjoy the early years of Hollywood and Disney in
the fine wholesome creations they created.

     What needs to be studied is there a pedophile problem turning Jews into
homosexuals or is it something to do with guilt in being wealthy while others
were worked to death in the holocaust that causes some Jews to self loathe
their own heritage and America turning out a self destructive person who is
taking part in a movement to destroy America.
     Jeff Rense featured this blog and yet his guests and features are people
like Devvy Kidd who are anarchists calling for the end of the GOP which is
stuck with John McCain to people who claim Jesus and God do not exist.

     There are allot of self destructive movements in this United States doing
their worst to rip this nation apart as they judge others.

     What would be fascinating would be for News From the West to email all of
the people you list as being public they have contact information and just ask
them about their homosexuality in how it started and if they have an insight
why is it that it seems so many Jews are part of this in the context why is it
so many Catholics like John Kerry are for aborting babies when it is against
their religious teachings.

     God bless.
     May 5, 2008 7:39 PM

Anonymous said...

     Protocols of the elders of zion, is the blue print for it all.

     read it, and digest it.
     May 5, 2008 7:42 PM

Anonymous said...

     Jew homos are also known as He-Blews
     May 5, 2008 9:05 PM

Anonymous said...

     As a fag who is not a Jew, I have seen and known thousands of people in
the gay community and very few are Jewish. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
Just go to your local gay bar and see how many people are Jewish - very few.
     May 6, 2008 1:58 AM

Anonymous said...

     It should be Zionists run, etc. Most "Jews" are in the dark like the rest
of the masses. The "Zionists" are only one side of the problem. The
"Zionists", Church(Jesuits/Catholic, Mormons, Protestants, etc.), the Muslims,
etc are run by the same people. Instead of it being one or the other it is
both. As long as the masses have different definitions for everything and are
fighting each other instead of the real enemy, they will continue to win.
     May 6, 2008 12:16 PM


Anonymous said...

     >>Just go to your local gay bar and see how many people are Jewish - very
few.

     But in a bar how can you tell who's a jew? i mean is it the difference of
the look in their dick being cut or uncut? im very serious, i cant think of a
way that one could tell who would be a jew and who isnt.
     May 6, 2008 1:04 PM


Anonymous said...

     To the fag who is not a jew. It really makes no difference who's in your
fag bar. That's not the point. Do you really think all the people name above -
Jews who are leading this perverted movement - go to your bar? You didn't
address the point made - the JEWS are in leadership positions of every part of
this movement. The point isn't that Jews are fags though many are. The point
is Jews undermine and destroy every society they attach themselves to.
     Through communism, fagism, destruction of Christian values, controlling
the media and the money, and now making laws which criminalize even pointing
out the criminal conduct of Jews. Our country was founded by Christians. jews
have destroyed it.
     May 6, 2008 2:32 PM


Anonymous said...

     I thought circumcision(genital mutilation) was required for their male
"bonding" ritual, "Jews" or Gentiles.
     May 6, 2008 4:20 PM


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that  ZYDS want us to forget !

Many more than 7 million innocent Ukrainian Christians died in the holocaust 
which ZYDS want to be "forgotten" - HOLODOMOR in Ukraine!

By ERIC MARGOLIS -- Contributing Foreign Editor Toronto Sun 

Five years ago, I wrote about the unknown Holocaust in Ukraine. I was shocked
to receive a flood of mail from young Americans and Canadians of Ukrainian
descent telling me that until they read my column, they knew nothing of the
1932-33 genocide in which Josef Stalin's Soviet regime murdered seven million
Ukrainians and sent two million more to concentration camps. 
How, I wondered, could such historical amnesia afflict so many? For Jews and
Armenians, the genocides their people suffered are vivid, living memories that
influence their daily lives. Yet today, on the 70th anniversary of the
destruction of a quarter of Ukraine's population, this titanic crime has
almost vanished into history's black hole. 

So has the extermination of the Don Cossacks by the communists in the 1920s,
the Volga Germans in 1941 and mass executions and deportations to
concentration camps of Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians and Poles. At the end
of World War II, Stalin's gulag held 5.5 million prisoners, 23% of them
Ukrainians and 6% Baltic peoples. 

Almost unknown is the genocide of two million of the USSR's Muslim peoples:
Chechens, Ingush, Crimean Tatars, Tajiks, Bashkirs and Kazaks. The Chechen
independence fighters who today are branded as "terrorists" by the U.S. and
Russia are the grandchildren of survivors of Soviet concentration camps. 
Add to this list of forgotten atrocities the murder in Eastern Europe from
1945-47 of at least two million ethnic Germans, mostly women and children, and
the violent expulsion of 15 million more Germans, during which two million
German girls and women were raped. 

Among these monstrous crimes, Ukraine stands out as the worst in terms of
numbers. Stalin declared war on his own people in 1932, sending Commissars V.
Molotov and Lazar Kaganovitch and NKVD secret police chief Genrikh Yagoda to
crush the resistance of Ukrainian farmers to forced collectivization. 
Ukraine was sealed off. All food supplies and livestock were confiscated. NKVD
death squads executed "anti-party elements." Furious that insufficient
Ukrainians were being shot, Kaganovitch - virtually the Soviet Union's Adolf
Eichmann - set a quota of 10,000 executions a week. Eighty percent of
Ukrainian intellectuals were shot. 

During the bitter winter of 1932-33, 25,000 Ukrainians per day were being shot
or died of starvation and cold. Cannibalism became common. Ukraine, writes
historian Robert Conquest, looked like a giant version of the future
Bergen-Belsen death camp. 

The mass murder of seven million Ukrainians, three million of them children,
and deportation to the gulag of two million more (where most died) was hidden
by Soviet propaganda. Pro-communist westerners, like The New York Times'
Walter Duranty, British writers Sidney and Beatrice Webb and French Prime
Minister Edouard Herriot, toured Ukraine, denied reports of genocide, and
applauded what they called Soviet "agrarian reform." Those who spoke out
against the genocide were branded "fascist agents." 

The U.S., British, and Canadian governments, however, were well aware of the
genocide, but closed their eyes, even blocking aid groups from going to
Ukraine. 

The only European leaders to raise a cry over Soviet industrialized murder
were, ironically and for their own cynical and self-serving reasons, Hitler
and Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. 

Because Kaganovitch, Yagoda and some other senior Communist party and NKVD
officials were Jewish, Hitler's absurd claim that communism was a Jewish plot
to destroy Christian civilization became widely believed across a fearful
Europe. 

When war came, U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt and British PM Winston
Churchill allied themselves closely to Stalin, though they were well aware his
regime had murdered at least 30 million people long before Hitler's
extermination of Jews and gypsies began. Yet in the strange moral calculus of
mass murder, only Germans were guilty. 

Though Stalin murdered three times more people than Hitler, to Roosevelt he
remained "Uncle Joe." 

The British-U.S. alliance with Stalin made them his partners in crime.
Roosevelt and Churchill helped preserve history's most murderous regime, to
which they handed over half of Europe in 1945. 

After the war, the left tried to cover up Soviet genocide. Jean-Paul Sartre
denied the gulag even existed. 

For the western Allies, Nazism was the only evil; they could not admit being
allied to mass murderers. For the Soviets, promoting the Jewish Holocaust
perpetuated anti-fascism and masked their own crimes. 

The Jewish people, understandably, saw their Holocaust as a unique event. It
was Israel's raison d'etre. Raising other genocides at that time would, they
feared, diminish their own. This was only human nature. 

While today, academia, the media and Hollywood rightly keep attention focused
on the Jewish Holocaust, they mostly ignore Ukraine. We still hunt Nazi
killers, but not communist killers. There are few photos of the Ukraine
genocide or Stalin's gulag, and fewer living survivors. Dead men tell no
tales. 

Russia never prosecuted any of its mass murderers, as Germany did. 
We know all about the crimes of Nazis Adolf Eichmann and Heinrich Himmler;
about Babi Yar and Auschwitz. 

But who remembers Soviet mass murderers Dzerzhinsky, Kaganovitch, Yagoda,
Yezhov and Beria? Were it not for writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn, we might
never know of Soviet death camps like Magadan, Kolyma and Vorkuta. Movie after
movie appears about Nazi evil, while the evil of the Soviet era vanishes from
view or dissolves into nostalgia. 

The souls of Stalin's millions of victims still cry out for justice. 


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com


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And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
Feel free to call, or even visit me;
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Map to Frankie's residence:
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On Ukraine Christians that  ZYD Communists want us to forget !

Many more than 7 million innocent Ukrainian Christians died in the holocaust 
which ZYDS want to be "forgotten" - HOLODOMOR in Ukraine!

By ERIC MARGOLIS -- Contributing Foreign Editor Toronto Sun 

Five years ago, I wrote about the unknown Holocaust in Ukraine. I was shocked
to receive a flood of mail from young Americans and Canadians of Ukrainian
descent telling me that until they read my column, they knew nothing of the
1932-33 genocide in which Josef Stalin's Soviet regime murdered seven million
Ukrainians and sent two million more to concentration camps. 
How, I wondered, could such historical amnesia afflict so many? For Jews and
Armenians, the genocides their people suffered are vivid, living memories that
influence their daily lives. Yet today, on the 70th anniversary of the
destruction of a quarter of Ukraine's population, this titanic crime has
almost vanished into history's black hole. 

So has the extermination of the Don Cossacks by the communists in the 1920s,
the Volga Germans in 1941 and mass executions and deportations to
concentration camps of Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians and Poles. At the end
of World War II, Stalin's gulag held 5.5 million prisoners, 23% of them
Ukrainians and 6% Baltic peoples. 

Almost unknown is the genocide of two million of the USSR's Muslim peoples:
Chechens, Ingush, Crimean Tatars, Tajiks, Bashkirs and Kazaks. The Chechen
independence fighters who today are branded as "terrorists" by the U.S. and
Russia are the grandchildren of survivors of Soviet concentration camps. 
Add to this list of forgotten atrocities the murder in Eastern Europe from
1945-47 of at least two million ethnic Germans, mostly women and children, and
the violent expulsion of 15 million more Germans, during which two million
German girls and women were raped. 

Among these monstrous crimes, Ukraine stands out as the worst in terms of
numbers. Stalin declared war on his own people in 1932, sending Commissars V.
Molotov and Lazar Kaganovitch and NKVD secret police chief Genrikh Yagoda to
crush the resistance of Ukrainian farmers to forced collectivization. 
Ukraine was sealed off. All food supplies and livestock were confiscated. NKVD
death squads executed "anti-party elements." Furious that insufficient
Ukrainians were being shot, Kaganovitch - virtually the Soviet Union's Adolf
Eichmann - set a quota of 10,000 executions a week. Eighty percent of
Ukrainian intellectuals were shot. 

During the bitter winter of 1932-33, 25,000 Ukrainians per day were being shot
or died of starvation and cold. Cannibalism became common. Ukraine, writes
historian Robert Conquest, looked like a giant version of the future
Bergen-Belsen death camp. 

The mass murder of seven million Ukrainians, three million of them children,
and deportation to the gulag of two million more (where most died) was hidden
by Soviet propaganda. Pro-communist westerners, like The New York Times'
Walter Duranty, British writers Sidney and Beatrice Webb and French Prime
Minister Edouard Herriot, toured Ukraine, denied reports of genocide, and
applauded what they called Soviet "agrarian reform." Those who spoke out
against the genocide were branded "fascist agents." 

The U.S., British, and Canadian governments, however, were well aware of the
genocide, but closed their eyes, even blocking aid groups from going to
Ukraine. 

The only European leaders to raise a cry over Soviet industrialized murder
were, ironically and for their own cynical and self-serving reasons, Hitler
and Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. 

Because Kaganovitch, Yagoda and some other senior Communist party and NKVD
officials were Jewish, Hitler's absurd claim that communism was a Jewish plot
to destroy Christian civilization became widely believed across a fearful
Europe. 

When war came, U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt and British PM Winston
Churchill allied themselves closely to Stalin, though they were well aware his
regime had murdered at least 30 million people long before Hitler's
extermination of Jews and gypsies began. Yet in the strange moral calculus of
mass murder, only Germans were guilty. 

Though Stalin murdered three times more people than Hitler, to Roosevelt he
remained "Uncle Joe." 

The British-U.S. alliance with Stalin made them his partners in crime.
Roosevelt and Churchill helped preserve history's most murderous regime, to
which they handed over half of Europe in 1945. 

After the war, the left tried to cover up Soviet genocide. Jean-Paul Sartre
denied the gulag even existed. 

For the western Allies, Nazism was the only evil; they could not admit being
allied to mass murderers. For the Soviets, promoting the Jewish Holocaust
perpetuated anti-fascism and masked their own crimes. 

The Jewish people, understandably, saw their Holocaust as a unique event. It
was Israel's raison d'etre. Raising other genocides at that time would, they
feared, diminish their own. This was only human nature. 

While today, academia, the media and Hollywood rightly keep attention focused
on the Jewish Holocaust, they mostly ignore Ukraine. We still hunt Nazi
killers, but not communist killers. There are few photos of the Ukraine
genocide or Stalin's gulag, and fewer living survivors. Dead men tell no
tales. 

Russia never prosecuted any of its mass murderers, as Germany did. 
We know all about the crimes of Nazis Adolf Eichmann and Heinrich Himmler;
about Babi Yar and Auschwitz. 

But who remembers Soviet mass murderers Dzerzhinsky, Kaganovitch, Yagoda,
Yezhov and Beria? Were it not for writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn, we might
never know of Soviet death camps like Magadan, Kolyma and Vorkuta. Movie after
movie appears about Nazi evil, while the evil of the Soviet era vanishes from
view or dissolves into nostalgia. 

The souls of Stalin's millions of victims still cry out for justice. 


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
Feel free to call, or even visit me;
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 
Map to Frankie's residence:
http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315

or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net

Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.


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The Evil That ZYDS Do-Many Details!!

On 30 Jan 2007 16:05:23 -0000, Ken McVaySOBC 
wrote:

>Mr.Wilson is to be commended for having the fortitude to list what he
>has listed.

>To add to the list:
>Seagrams (Bronfmans) involvement in the thalidomide tragedy. As the TV
>documentary detailed, they knew about the harmful effects, but sold
>it for extra profits!!

>Then, there is the involvement of Bnai Brith with Ken McVay, in the
>international TAX FRAUD using FRAUDULENT false charity donation receipts from BB
>for payments for McVays porn and advertising business!!

>And don't forget the Bronfman Jews $1,500 MILLION TAX SCAM on the
>Canadian tax department!

>Or the $440 MILLION Ripoff by the Ghermezian Jews on the Alberta
>Canada Treasury Branch!!


>> twilson@nospam.com (Trevor Wilson) wrote in message 
>news:<70b32f2ceb5a00c15ef5bc3d9159ec10@news.meganetnews.com>...
>> > To begin, let me say that I have attempted to set forth a detailed,
>> > comprehensive and thoroughly-documented account of Jewish historical
>> > and contemporary misbehavior in my lengthy essay 'The case against the
>> > Jews' which is posted on my website at

>> > http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Jews/Jews-CaseJews.html

>> > While this essay is excellent as far as it goes, it does not cover the
>> > watershed events of the last year or so. In particular, it does not
>> > cover the one event of the period which set the stage for the present
>> > war, and for which the Jews are almost certainly responsible: The
>> > 'terrorist' attacks of September 11, 2001, which we shall simply
>> > designate 911. Perhaps you will find this statement unbelievable, but
>> > the evidence is overwhelming; and while it is equally clear that
>> > Washington was also involved (see below), it is helpful to remember
>> > that 'Washington' is just another name for Jerusalem-on-the-Potomac,
>> > and does the phrase 'Israeli- occupied territory' ring a bell with
>> > you? Hello? Hello?

>> > [...]

>> > Earlier I promised to set out briefly my problems with 'the Jews'. I
>> > do this by noting that it has been Jews who have been the force
>> > majeure behind the following policies -- policies which not merely
>> > shred the Constitution, but seem clearly designed to destroy America
>> > and Western civilization, and especially its tradition of freedom.
>> > While I have not had time to provide links which show the intimate
>> > connection between Jews and the implementation of these policies, I
>> > have posted on my website various articles on all of these subjects
>> > which demonstrate this connection.

>> > ** Gun control (it makes totalitarian control easier)

>> > ** Anti-militia statutes (ditto)

>> > ** Hate-crime laws (ie, thought-crime laws)

>> > ** Immigration (ie, taking our country away from its native
>> > inhabitants, and filling it with people who have no appreciation of
>> > the Constitution or Western values generally)

>> > ** Integration (ie, the abolition of freedom of association, and
>> > miscegenation, ie, destruction of the (white) race which produced
>> > Western civilization)

>> > ** Feminism (ie, male castration, which makes totalitarian control
>> > easier)

>> > ** Civil rights (ie, special privileges for minorities, which replaces
>> > legal equality; Jews founded the NAACP and headed it till the 70s; the
>> > 'freedom riders' were mostly Jews)

>> > ** The Bolshevik Revolution (60 million dead, and guess what law was
>> > first to be promulgated by Lenin? Right! A law against antisemitism!)

>> > ** America's entry into WW1 (The Balfour Declaration was the payoff to
>> > the Zionist Jews for using their influence on President Wilson)

>> > ** The abuses of the Versailles treaty (More than 100 Jews were in the
>> > American delegation at the conference, and most historians agree that
>> > the conditions imposed on Germany virtually guaranteed another world
>> > war)

>> > ** WW2 (Churchill was paid off by Jews, who saved his Chartwell estate
>> > from the auctioneer; Roosevelt was Jewish: His original Dutch family
>> > name was Rosenveldt)

>> > ** Atomic spies for the Soviets (Rosenbergs, David Greenglass,
>> > Theodore Hall, Martin Sobel, and many other Jews)

>> > ** The laws against 'racism', 'xenophobia' and -- especially --
>> > questioning the Orthodox Jewish Version of the Holocaust (mostly in
>> > Europe, but coming soon to a country near and dear to you! And of
>> > course if the OJV were true then they wouldn't have to make laws
>> > against questioning it, but since it is such a big source of shakedown
>> > money -- the Swiss being only the most public example -- it is pretty
>> > clear why there is so much effort to keep Big Questions from being put
>> > in front of the public about this Jewish Big Lie.) *

>> > * The Federal Reserve (Owned by the Rothschilds and their friends; it
>> > has been responsible for all our depressions (by contracting the
>> > currency) and inflation (robbing our wealth) as detailed in G Edward
>> > Griffin's massive tome, 'The Creature From Jekyll Island' ; Jew Paul
>> > Warburg wrote the Federal Reserve Act)

>> > ** Control of both political parties (Hey, money talks, and you can
>> > take that to the bank!)

>> > ** Most major contemporary financial scandals (Need we mention such
>> > well- known Jews as Ivan Boesky and Marc Rich? And let us not forget
>> > the two major operatives in the Enron scandal, Andy Fastow and Ken
>> > Lay, who were responsible for the largest bankruptcy in US history.
>> > The historical record is similar: For example, Rothschild agent JP
>> > Morgan created the panic of 1907 which led to the establishment of the
>> > Federal Reserve; and Rothschild agent Nicholas Biddle, president of
>> > the Second Bank of the US, engaged in a long struggle with Andrew
>> > Jackson over money power, which Jackson won only barely.)

>> > ** Assassination of JFK (Michael Collins Piper has made a strong case
>> > for Jewish responsibility in his book 'Final Judgment'  - The reason
>> > for the hit was JFK's fervent opposition to Israel's nuclear arsenal)

>> > ** The Mob (Yes, Italians have been significantly involved, but Jews
>> > have long held principal sway, from Meyer Lansky onward, and the
>> > problem is now even more acute with the importation of the 'refugees'
>> > of the 'Russian mafiya', who are far more brutal than even the
>> > domestic Jewish mob)

>> > ** Accusations against Libya resulting in the Reagan bombing (the
>> > accusations were the result of one of many so-called 'false flag'
>> > operations by the Mossad, as described by former Mossad agent Victor
>> > Ostrovsky in his book 'By Way of Deception'.)

>> > ** Attack on the USS Liberty

>> > ** MLK (His chief handler was communist Jew Stanley Levison)

>> > ** White slavery (The Jews love gentile women -- in bed (so much so
>> > that the Jewish slang for gentile female -- 'shiksa' -- has moved into
>> > standard English slang as 'chick'), and Israel is the center of trade
>> > in the sexual enslavement of white women)

>> > ** Kiddie porn (2 big Jewish rings recently exposed -- in Italy and
>> > Brazil)

>> > ** Torture (It's state policy in Izzyland; it was used with great
>> > efficiency on German prisoners at the Nuremberg trials, where dozens
>> > of Germans had their testicles beaten to a pulp by members of the
>> > overwhelming Jewish presence there; in America, torture is defended
>> > primarily by prominent Jews like Alan Dershowitz and CCNY Prof Michael
>> > Levin, and it won't be long before you, too, can experience it if the
>> > Jews have their way!)

>> > ** MK-Ultra (This infamous CIA mind-control program -- exposed by the
>> > Church committee hearings in the 70s -- was headed by Jew Sidney
>> > Gottlieb) ** Cruelty (The quarter-Jew Yiddish-speaking Lenin praised
>> > Jews for their cruelty, and encouraged it as part of the largely-
>> > Jewish Russian revolution)

>> > ** Ecstasy (The trade in this drug is dominated by Jews, and
>> > experience has shown that rabbis make excellent mules.)

>> > ** Destruction of South Africa (The South African Communist Party was
>> > headed by Lithuanian Jew Joe Slovo, who was Nelson Mandela's handler,
>> > and isn't it wonderful that Johannesburg is now the Rape Capital of
>> > the World and that SA is now a Turd-World cesspool?)

>> > ** And on and on, literally. Of course, with the Jewsmedia as your
>> > only source of information, you probably haven't had a clue as to what
>> > is really going on, but then that is precisely why you should be
>> > reading my website, www.thebirdman.org, and similar sites which cover
>> > these things. We post piles of documentation every day for this stuff,
>> > in addition to the many permanent posts; and while one swallow doesn't
>> > make a drunkard, after reading us for awhile, even liberals can start
>> > to get the picture -- at least sometimes, if their minds haven't been
>> > terminally poisoned.

>> > So what, then, am I getting at? Here is a paragraph I recently wrote
>> > on the subject:

>> > It is wrong to assign the blame for the crimes of individual Jews to
>> > the Jewish people as a whole. But it is not wrong to notice that the
>> > Jewish people are a seething nexus of crime against gentiles -- a
>> > locus whose probability of producing any given assault on white
>> > Western civilization exceeds randomness by seven leagues and a country
>> > mile. The 20th century has been replete with Jewish-led movements
>> > which wormed, chipped, chewed, hacked and battered their way across
>> > American and European civilization, from the Jewish-led and Jewish-
>> > financed Bolshevik revolution thru political correctness, hate crimes
>> > and the Holohoax to Palestinian genocide, State- sponsored torture,
>> > the shredding of the American Constitution, US and Israeli war crimes
>> > and placing the world on the precipice of World War Three. The list
>> > could literally go on and on, even as the media -- and indeed the bulk
>> > of its dumbed-down thoroughly-conditioned politically- correct
>> > citizenry -- are paralyzed by the threat of Jewish wrath and the
>> > meaningless yet anaphylactically venemous charge of 'antisemitism',
>> > with the result that the few of us who have been screaming that the
>> > king has no clothes watch helplessly as our beloved civilization and
>> > its traditions of freedom and opportunity disappear with increasing
>> > rapidity down the gaping and unforgiving maw of the Orwellian memory
>> > hole. Under these circumstances it is no moral crime to be
>> > antisemitic; rather it is a *moral obligation*.

>> > http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Jews/Mensa-UpdatingJewishCrimes-MensaLtr200
>> > 3.html


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
Reply-To: Frank Arthur ,
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE
ATLANTA, GA 30315
(770) 739-6508
Map to Frankie's residence:
http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315


or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@nixkor.org.
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.


From Art@Arthurian.com Fri Sep  5 11:29:12 EDT 2008
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There Is NO GROSVENOR posting, just me pretending to be a Grosvenor!
Frank Arthur=Grosvenor= Ken McVay - Invites Calls & Visits

Frank Arthur = I frequently use aliases: Grosvenor or Ken McVay - 
I do Invite Calls & Visits.

Yes  people, I  really am the foul misbegotten pestilence  known 
by many as  Frank Arthur - often  using the alias Grosvenor - 
and sometimes alias  Ken McVay or even Dr.Lippshitz.

No wonder people think of me, Frank Arthur as real subhuman dreck!

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
Feel free to call, or even visit me; 
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 
Map to Frankie's residence:
http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315


As Frank Arthur I sometimes post via Bellsouth Internet Group.

As the fraud Grosvenor and similar aliases [which is me]  
I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

Sometimes as Grosvenor, or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or 
Yitzhak Goldstein. I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

I don't use my degenerate father's name because I am ashamed of 
him so I steal other's names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for many years,
 so I stole his name to annoy him, and also readers! 

There are no articles posted by Grosvenor, only by me!

Many people believe that I am really  faggot Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
As this human turd I steal names.

Here are some of my names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
George Firestone,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur" 
wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art @  Arthurian.com, 
Feel free to call, or even visit me;
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 
Map to Frankie's residence:
http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315

or to Steve Horn - kcom @ breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay @ vex.net
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.

Remove spaces in email addresses before/after @

AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

A Great source of   ZYD-free  news!

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Deborah Sharavi's Swastika Axe
 Since Arial Sharon, the Butcher of Beirut is in a coma,
Deborah Sharavi must be using his swastika axe to kill
Palestinian children with for her "recipe":
http://aliyaallzionists.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sharon-killing-children.jpg
 http://aliyaallzionists.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sharon-laughing-blood-bath.jpg
 This Is How Violent Zionists Are: Zionist, Cannibalistic "Recipe":
http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/
 Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm
 On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200,
"Heinrich"wrote:
 > As usual, you left out the part about the IDF
> eating their palestinian prey after they kill them.
> It's the reason the dead palestinian numbers
> are so low and the missing count is so high.
 Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.
 Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid
 8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped
 Divide the sage leaves into equal portions
and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole,
melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat,
and then remove and reduce the flame.
Add the onion, carrot and turnip,
cover and let simmer for an hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider.
Bring to a boil, add the bouquet garni,
cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2 hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole
and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole,
pressing down on the vegetables
to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter,
pour over some of the juices
and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.
 Serves lots of Pallies.
 Deborah
 http://tinyurl.com/ddkek  (8th post)
 http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/
 http://fourthreichisrael.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-recipe/
 http://letthewhitedovesing.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-"recipe"/
 http://zionismequalsapartheid.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2305868%3ATopic%3A9
 http://angelesdeesse.spaces.live.com/
 http://chitchatzionist.blogspot.com/2008/07/bizarre-insane.html
 http://www.freewebs.com/fourthreichisrael/zionistrecipe.htm
 http://fourthreichisrael.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2277326%3ATopic%3A11
 http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/
 http://canadiansforpalestine.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2145294%3ATopic%3A1564
 http://madalenalobaotellosnetwork2.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=949499%3ATopic%3A14587
 http://www.xanga.com/letthewhitedovesing





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Deborah Sharavi's Swastika Axe

Since Arial Sharon, the Butcher of Beirut is in a coma,
Deborah Sharavi must be using his swastika axe to kill
Palestinian children with for her "recipe":
http://aliyaallzionists.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sharon-killing-children.jpg

http://aliyaallzionists.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sharon-laughing-blood-bath.jpg

This Is How Violent Zionists Are: Zionist, Cannibalistic "Recipe":
http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200,
"Heinrich"wrote:

> As usual, you left out the part about the IDF
> eating their palestinian prey after they kill them.
> It's the reason the dead palestinian numbers
> are so low and the missing count is so high.

Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.

Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid

8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped

Divide the sage leaves into equal portions
and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole,
melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat,
and then remove and reduce the flame.
Add the onion, carrot and turnip,
cover and let simmer for an hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider.
Bring to a boil, add the bouquet garni,
cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2 hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole
and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole,
pressing down on the vegetables
to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter,
pour over some of the juices
and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

http://tinyurl.com/ddkek  (8th post)

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

http://fourthreichisrael.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-recipe/

http://letthewhitedovesing.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-"recipe"/

http://zionismequalsapartheid.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2305868%3ATopic%3A9

http://angelesdeesse.spaces.live.com/

http://chitchatzionist.blogspot.com/2008/07/bizarre-insane.html

http://www.freewebs.com/fourthreichisrael/zionistrecipe.htm

http://fourthreichisrael.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2277326%3ATopic%3A11

http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/

http://canadiansforpalestine.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2145294%3ATopic%3A1564

http://madalenalobaotellosnetwork2.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=949499%3ATopic%3A14587

http://www.xanga.com/letthewhitedovesing

Is Deborah Sharavi just another sock-puppet for fag Shabbas-goy McVay?


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Israel is Safe Haven for International Jewish Criminals

On 12 Aug 2006 11:22:59 -0700, in can.politics "AlX"
 wrote:

The main reason that world Jewry wants Israel to exist -  tho many
Jews are not willing to live there - is as a refuge for Jewish
fugitives from around the world.  If a Jewish crook is able to make it to
Israel, he is home free.  Israel will not extradite a Jew to any
other country to face criminal charges - not even to the U.S.
without whose support Israel would not even exist.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Israeli 9/11 Crook Flees with $57 Million to Israel

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91721


Jacob "Kobi" Alexander, the Israeli founder of Comverse Technology,
one of the leading Mossad companies involved in the terror attacks has
fled justice in the United States and escaped to Israel with at least
$57 million of ill-gotten gains.

As todays New York Times reports:

New York - Describing a brazen scheme to manipulate the granting of
options, federal prosecutors have charged three former executives of
Comverse Technology with mail fraud, securities fraud and wire fraud.

In charging the former executives on Tuesday, prosecutors said they
had used fictitious employees to create a secret slush fund of options
to be distributed to favored employees.

The former chief executive, Jacob Alexander, who had built Comverse
into a $1 billion leader in the communications software market, did
not appear in court and is believed to have fled to Germany or Israel,
according to a person briefed on the investigation. A warrant was
issued for his arrest.

Alexander is highly regarded in Israel, where he once owned a stake in
a Tel Aviv professional basketball team and where Comverse has
extensive business operations.

In late July, he wired $57 million to an account in Israel, according
to court filings from the Justice Department. Millions more are
believed to remain in his accounts in the United States, which
prosecutors have asked to be frozen.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/10/business/options.php

(End of quote)

Kobi Alexander should be arrested and interrogated about his knowledge
of the events of 9/11. His company acquired the other Mossad firm,
Odigo, shortly after it was revealed that Odigo employees had been
forewarned of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

This is the tip of the Israeli criminal mafia who is behind the terror
attacks on 9/11.

Here is a relevant section from one of my articles about Mossad's
involvement in 9/11, which I posted on RMN on April 7, 2005:

At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an
imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first
plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the
WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the
authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands
of lives.

Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out
and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli
nationality.

Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo's vice president,
reportedly said, "It was possible that the attack warning was
broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received
reports of other recipients of the message."

The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two
months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the
matter. There have been no media reports since.

Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its
Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small
town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad's
headquarters are located.

Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology,
another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse
were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from "insider
trading."

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985

Kobi Alexander the Israeli crook who owned the Mossad companies who
had clear foreknowledge of the terror attacks of 9/11. Alexander
transferred $57 million to Israel and fled to Israel as a fugitive
>from justice. Why didn't the police arrest him before he was able to
get away? Who warned him and allowed him to flee? This man is
connected to the terror attacks of 9/11.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
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Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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American Jews involved in Russia as Commisars
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:21:16 -0700
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:02:28 +1000, in alt.revisionism "Benja'min"
 wrote:

A table made up in 1918, by Robert Wilton, correspondent of the
London Times in Russia, shows at that time there were 384 commissars
including 2 Negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22 Armenians
and more than 300 Jews. Of the latter number 264 had come from
the United States since the downfall of the Imperial Government.

U.S. National Archives. (1919). Record Group 120: Records of the 
American Expeditionary Forces, June 9.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
Feel free to call, or even visit me; 
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 
Map to Frankie's residence:
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Even in Israel, they know who controls the drugs trade!!

ISRAEL , CENTRE OF DRUG TRADE, HAARETZ
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:22:22 -0600
Message-ID: <08alg2hglis7jjqtqb6ijgd8rl3o7v6oni@4ax.com>

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:11:43 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

            Israelis at center of ecstasy drug trade

            By Nathan Guttman

            Israel is at the center of international trade in the drug 
ecstasy, according to a document published last week by the U.S. State 
Department.

            In recent years, organized crime in Israel, some with links to 
criminal organizations in Russia, have come to control the distribution of 
the drug in Europe, according to a Bureau for International Narcotics and 
Law Enforcement Affairs document.

            The same document also points out that Israeli criminal groups 
have a hand in the distribution of ecstasy in North America.

            During 2000, 80 percent of the ecstasy seized in North America 
originated in the Netherlands, which is the largest production center, along 
with Belgium and Poland. The State Department is certain that Israeli 
organizations are linked to the laboratories in the Netherlands and are 
responsible for the worldwide distribution.

            "Israeli drug distribution organizations are currently the main 
source for distribution of the drug to groups inside the U.S., to smuggling 
through express mail services, through couriers on commercial flights and, 
recently, through air cargo," states the report. In the past two years, the 
U.S. has dealt more severely with ecstasy. Federal judges deal with 
smugglers in the ecstasy trade with the same severity as heroin and cocaine 
dealers.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
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Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
Feel free to call, or even visit me; 
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ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 
Map to Frankie's residence:
http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315

or to Steve Horn - kcom @ breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay @ vex.net
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
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GERMAN PATRIOTS ON THE MOVE

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:31:56 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

Globalist Parasites Take Fright as German Patriots Prepare for Government

By Michael James in Frankfurt, Germany

9-23-6

Swimming against a swelling tide of popular anger, disillusionment and 
despair, Germany's corrupt and self-serving political elites are reacting 
with horror to the quiet revolution that is taking place in the heartlands 
of the German nation.

Galvanised by a growing rage at the massive annual transfers of taxpayers' 
money to the state of Israel and the European Union against the backdrop of 
Germany's biggest tax hike in history, a bankrupt and collapsing health 
sector, failed education system, mass unemployment and a tidal wave of 
immigration, voters are terrifying their ruling masters by switching their 
allegiance to radical patriots.

Michel Friedman, a notoriously sleazy Jewish politician, wealthy activist 
lawyer and heavily promoted television personality with a criminal record 
for cocaine abuse and a penchant for vicious anti-German tirades, was among 
the first to condemn voters for sending nationalist candidates to the state 
parliament in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern last Sunday.

"The patient Germany must now be healed with antibiotics because Aspirin no 
longer works," the enraged Friedman wrote in Stern Magazine. "We must make 
it clear to voters that while protest votes in a democracy are legitimate 
they should not be used to legitimate hostile parties."

The pro-German Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (National 
Democratic Party of Germany) secured six seats in the new parliament, which 
oversees a constituency suffering an 18 percent jobless rate, widespread 
poverty, swingeing cuts in public welfare and an invasion of immigrants 
seeking handouts and black market jobs. The success follows its 2004 entry 
into the state parliament in Saxony, where it now boasts twelve 
representatives, and the consolidation of a substantial parliamentary 
presence in Bremen and Brandenburg in the shape of its sister party, the 
German People's Union (DVU).

The NPD gained significantly in stature last year by staging a walkout in 
the Saxon parliament in Dresden, protesting a one-minute silence in 
remembrance of the "victims" of Auschwitz in place of a similar 
commemoration for the victims of the Dresden Holocaust. Between February 13 
and 15, 1945, an estimated 250,000 German civilians, most of them women and 
children, died in a terrorist firestorm of nightmare proportions unleashed 
by American and British bombers. It has been described as a war crime of an 
even greater magnitude to that of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and 
Nagasaki, amounting to a cold and calculated act of genocide against the 
German people and the irrational destruction of one of Europe's most 
beautiful historical cities, which at the time posed no military threat.

Efforts to ban the NPD failed spectacularly in March 2003 when Germany's 
Federal Constitutional Court rejected a petition from the government and 
mainstream political parties. The court was unable to obtain testimony from 
operatives working for the federal secret police, who had infiltrated the 
NPD as informers and agents provocateur.

However, members of Angela Merkel's increasingly unpopular coalition 
government have moved swiftly to re-state plans for a new banning order. 
Complaining that the NPD's "increasingly aggressive self-confidence" is 
partly based on its constitutionality, the Vice-President of the German 
federal parliament, Wolfgang Thierse (Social Democratic Party of Germany), 
and the chairman of the SPD's parliamentary faction, Peter Struck, are 
seeking urgent talks with the Minister of the Interior, Wolfgang Schaeuble 
(Christian Democratic Union), ahead of moves to outlaw German patriotism.

Demanding "a tougher response from the police and a prohibition of the NPD", 
Thierse reiterated Friedman's argument that protests could only be tolerated 
insofar that such protests are not translated into support for anti-Zionist 
and pro-German political movements. It was acceptable, he stated, that the 
communist PDS be allowed to absorb "rage, indignation and disappointment", 
but the same should not apply to the nationalist NPD. If you can't beat it, 
he argues, ban it.

"Unconstitutional wickedness," says Gerhard Frey, leader of the DVU and 
historical truth campaigner. "It's a cheap idea."

NPD leader Udo Voigt also remains unfazed at the fuss generated by a 
frightened elite and its journalists-for-hire in the Zionist mainstream 
media, pointing out that most of the damage directed at campaign posters 
during the election had been directed at the NPD by their opponents. The 
Berlin police went on record by saying that the emotional hysteria whipped 
up by the tabloid press in regard to alleged attacks on globalists had no 
foundation in reality "and could not be established".

Voigt is now eyeing upcoming elections in the states of Bavaria, Hessen, 
Niedersachsen and Saarland and expects a steadily increasing "momentum in 
the west" with the ultimate prize in mind: the Bundestag in 2009. But for 
the moment, all eyes are on Udo Pastoers, the prospective chief of the NPD's 
parliamentary group in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Less than a day after 
securing victory, Pastoers paid special tribute to prisoner of conscience 
and historian, Ernst Zundel, placing him alongside Mahatma Gandhi as an 
idealist and freedom fighter.

"Ernst Zundel has achieved the unbelievable," Pastoers said admiringly.

Zundel, who was illegally kidnapped from his home in the United States by 
Zionist agents working on behalf of the German government, is currently on 
trial in Mannheim for publishing scientific and historical information that 
brings into question the factual integrity of the so-called Jewish 
"holocaust". A succession of defence lawyers have been dismissed and 
threatened with prosecution for attempting to provide the court with 
evidence that Mr Zundel is correct in his assertions: a bizarre and surreal 
legal process that is unique to Germany, and which has angered millions of 
civil libertarians in Europe, Britain, Ireland, America, Canada and the Arab 
world.

Both Voigt and Frey have emphasised their keen willingness to work with 
other national independence movements in Europe as part of a long-term 
strategy to bring an end to the European Union, NATO, the World Bank, the 
United Nations and other institutions that represent corporate and global 
parasiticism at the expense of ordinary working and middle-class people.

"There are only two different causes that historically lead over and over 
again to destruction, murder, war and suffering," says 17-year old Sebastian 
Seidel, a member of the NPD's youth wing, the Freien Kameradschaften. "On 
the one side is the abuse of power, greed and the arbitrary expansion of 
hegemony that embraces the insanity of world government. On the other side 
is the response to injustice, resistance to the dark powers of evil, the 
struggle against those who would eliminate us, and the dawning of a new will 
to freedom that fights against everything that falsifies and destroys the 
survival imperative of peoples and their cultures."

As the Berlin coalition government comes to typify the worst excesses of the 
decadent Weimar Republic, endlessly promoting abortion, homosexuality, 
atheism and a hatred of all things German while sending precious young 
soldiers to die for counterfeit Israel in Afghanistan and the Lebanon, 
increasing numbers of angry German citizens are quietly and patiently 
preparing to take back their nation and declare independence from the 
Satanic New World Order.

"This time," says Voigt, smiling. "This time."
---------- 

Michael James is a British freelance journalist and translator, resident in 
Germany for over 14 years. Permission to republish his work in any media is 
freely granted.



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ZYDS/Jews and Bolshevism Which Was Controlled By The ZYDS!

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:55:33 -0400, in alt.revisionism
chester_field@fastmail.fm wrote:

ZYDs/Jews and Bolshevism
 
Amongst themselves, the Jews are quite candid about their sympathy for
and involvement in Bolshevism.

On 4 April 1919 the Jewish Chronicle: "There is much in the fact of
Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in
the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant
with the finest ideals of Judaism."

(Perhaps this explains why the Red Army uses a Jewish star as its
symbol?)

Probably the best-known exposé of the Jewish role in the Bolshevik
coup d'état was by Sir Winston Churchill, writing in the Illustrated
Sunday Herald of 8 February 1920. Churchill wrote "With the notable
exception of Lenin, the majority of leading figures are Jews. Moreover
the principal inspiration and the driving power comes from Jewish
leaders."

Communism was of course founded by Karl Marx whose grandfather was a
rabbi by the name of Mordeccai. Marx was given his initial
encouragement by a Communist-Zionist by the name of Moses Hess. As
founder and editor of the Rheinische Zeitung, the main organ of
leftist thought in Germany, he provided Karl Marx with his first
important platform. Later, in Brussels, he collaborated with Marx on
The German Ideology. It was Hess too who converted to Communism
Friedrich Engels, the wealthy textiles magnate who later subsidised
Marx from the profits of sweated labour in Britain and Germany.

When the Bolsheviks overthrew the short-lived democratic government in
Moscow and St. Petersburg in October 1917, it was a virtual Jewish
coup d'état. The most prominent Jewish Commissar was Trotsky, real
name Bronstein. He had been married by a rabbi in 1900, and whilst in
exile in New York he had worked for Novy Mir, described in the Church
Times (23 January 1925) as a "Yiddish newspaper."

The various reporters and diplomats who were there at the time of the
"Revolution" have given evidence as to its Jewish nature.

The widow of the Guardian's correspondent Mrs. Ariadna
Tyrkova-Williams wrote: "In the Soviet Republic all the committees and
commissaries were filled with Jews."

The most detailed description of Jewish influence in the Bolshevik
'revolution comes from Robert Wilton, the Russian correspondent of The
Times. In 1920 he published a book in French, Les Derniers Jours des
Romanofs, which gave the racial background of all the members of the
Soviet government. (This does not appear in the later English
translation, for some odd reason.) After the publication of this
monumental work, Wilton was ostracised by the press, and he died in
poverty in 1925. He reported that the Central Committee of the
Bolshevik Party was made up as follows:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Lourie (Larine) 	Jew
Ouritski 	Jew
Volodarski 	Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) 	Jew
Smidovitch 	Jew
Sverdlof (Yankel) 	Jew
Nakhamkes (Steklof) 	Jew
Ulyanov (Lenin) 	Russian
Krylenko 	Russian
Lounatcharski 	Russian



 
"The Council of the People's Commissars comprises the following:

 
MINISTRY 	NAME 	NATIONALITY
President 	Ulyanov (Lenin) 	Russian
Foreign Affairs 	Tchitcherine 	Russian
Nationalities 	Djugashvili (Stalin) 	Georgian
Agriculture 	Protian 	Armenian
Economic Council 	Lourie (Larine) 	Jew
Food 	Schlichter 	Jew
Army & Navy 	Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
State Control 	Lander 	Jew
State Lands 	Kauffman 	Jew
Works 	V. Schmidt 	Jew
Social Relief 	E. Lelina (Knigissen) 	Jewess
Public Instruction 	Lounatcharsky 	Russian
Religions 	Spitzberg 	Jew
Interior 	Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Hygiene 	Anvelt 	Jew
Finance 	Isidore Goukovski 	Jew
Press 	Volodarski 	Jew
Elections 	Ouritski 	Jew
Justice 	I. Steinberg 	Jew
Refugees 	Fenigstein 	Jew
Refugees (assist.) 	Savitch 	Jew
Refugees (assist.) 	Zaslovski 	Jew



 
"The following is the list of members of the Central Executive
Committee:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Sverdlov (president) 	Jew
Avanessof (sec.) 	Armenian
Bruno 	Lett
Babtchinski 	Jew
Bukharin 	Russian
Weinberg 	Jew
Gailiss 	Jew
Ganzburg 	Jew
Danichevski 	Jew
Starck 	German
Sachs 	Jew
Scheinmann 	Jew
Erdling 	Jew
Landauer 	Jew
Linder 	Jew
Wolach 	Czech
Dimanstein 	Jew
Encukidze 	Georgian
Ermann 	Jew
Joffe 	Jew
Karkline 	Jew
Knigissen 	Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamenef) 	Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Krylenko 	Russian
KrassikofSachs 	Jew
Kaprik 	Jew
Kaoul 	Lett
Ulyanov (lenin) 	Russian
Latsis 	Jew
Lander 	Jew
Lounatcharski 	Russian
Peterson 	Lett
Peters 	Lett
Roudzoutas 	Jew
Rosine 	Jew
Smidovitch 	Jew
Stoutchka 	Lett
Nakhamkes (Steklof) 	Jew
Sosnovski 	Jew
Skrytnik 	Jew
Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
Teodorovitch 	Jew
Terian 	Armenian
Ouritski 	Jew
Telechkine 	Russian
Feldmann 	Jew
Froumkine 	Jew
Souriupa 	Ukranian
Tchavtchevadze 	Georgian
Scheikmann 	Jew
Rosental 	Jew
Achkinazi 	Imeretian
Karakhane 	Karaim (Jew)
Rose 	Jew
Sobelson (Radek) 	Jew
Sclichter 	Jew
Schikolini 	Jew
Chklianski 	Jew
Levine (Pravdine) 	Jew



 
"The following is the list of members of the Extraordinary Commission
of Moscow:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Dzerjinski (president) 	Pole
Peters (vice-president) 	Lett
Chklovski 	Jew
Kheifiss 	Jew
Zeistine 	Jew
Razmirovitch 	Jew
Kronberg 	Jew
Khaikina 	Jewess
Karlson 	Lett
Schaumann 	Jew
Leontovitch 	Jew
Jacob Goldine 	Jew
Glaperstein 	Jew
Kniggisen 	Jew
Latzis 	Lett
Schillenkuss 	Jew
Janson 	Lett
Rivkine 	Jew
Antonof 	Russian
Delafabre 	Jew
Tsitkine 	Jew
Roskirovitch 	Jew
G. Sverdlof 	Jew
Biesenski 	Jew
Blioumkine 	Jew
Alexandrevitch 	Russian
I. Model 	Jew
Routenberg 	Jew
Pines 	Jew
Sachs 	Jew
Daybol 	Lett
Saissoune 	Armenian
Deylkenen 	Lett
Liebert 	Jew
Vogel 	German
Zakiss 	Lett


 
Although Lenin is described as a "Russian," in fact he was a mixture
of various nationalities. It is likely that he was one-quarter
Russian, one-quarter German, one-quarter Jewish and at least
one-quarter Kalmuck (Mongol), which accounts for his Mongol
appearance. Various authorities allege that his wife, Nadezhda
Krupskaya was a Jewess and that her family spoke Yiddish in the home.

A report sent to the British government in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke, the
Dutch consul in St. Petersburg, said that "Bolshevism is organised and
worked by Jews." The report was included in a pamphlet published as a
government White Paper in April 1919 entitled Russia No. 1 (1919) A
Collection of Reports on Bolshevism in Russia. However, the pamphlet
was quickly withdrawn and reissued with various excisions and
alterations made.

In the War Records Division of the United States National Archives
there is filed a report from an American Intelligence operative in St.
Petersburg. Under Record Group 20; Records of the American
Expeditionary Forces Capt. Montgomery Schuyler, G2 Intelligence wrote,
"The Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning, guided
and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type."

Also in the U.S. National Archives are two telegrams sent by American
diplomats in Russia. State Department document 861.00/1757 sent on 2
May 1918 by U.S. Consul Summers in Moscow relates, "Jews predominant
in local Soviet government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among
population." Document 861.00/2205 from Consul Caldwell in Vladivostock
on 5 July 1918 describes, "Fifty per cent of Soviet government in each
town consists of Jews of worst type."

In January, 1924, Lenin died from causes variously described as 'a
heart attack,' brain hemorrhage' and 'syphilis.' His comrades
immediately began fighting amongst themselves to see who was to become
his successor.

A relative outsider, Joseph Stalin, came to the fore and purged all
competition either by exiling or executing them. Since Stalin was not
Jewish, yet nearly all his opponents were, it is often suggested that
Stalin was anti-Semitic. This is far from the truth.

Stalin had three wives, all of them Jewesses. The first was Ekaterina
Svanidze who bore him one son, Jacob. His second wife was Kadya
Allevijah. She bore him a son Vassili and a daughter Svetlana. His
second wife died in mysterious circumstances, either by committing
suicide or murdered by Stalin. His third wife was Rosa Kaganovich, the
sister of Lazar Kaganovich, the head of Soviet industry. Stalin's
daughter (who in 1967 fled to the USA) then married Lazar's son Mihail
i.e. her step-mother's nephew. Svetlana Stalin had a total of four
husbands, three of them Jewish.

Stalin's vice-president Molotov was also married to a Jewess, whose
brother, Sam Karp, runs an export business in Connecticut. Just to
complicate things even more, the Molotov's (half-Jewish) daughter also
called Svetlana was engaged to be married to Stalin's son Vassili.

After the death of Stalin, his successors kept up the tradition, for a
report in the B'nai B'rith Messenger relates: "To show that Russia
treats its Jews well, Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschev this week
remarked at a reception at the Polish Embassy that not only he himself
and Soviet President Klementi Voroshilov, but also half the members of
the Praesidium have Jewish wives. Mr. Kruschev made this remark to
Israeli Ambassador Joseph Avidar, who was amongst the guests."
(Kruschev's wife was yet another Kaganovitch.)

According to a report in The Canadian Jewish News of 13 November 1964
the present Soviet boss Leonid Brezhnev is married to a Jewess, and
his children are brought up as Jews. There are a number of prominent
Jews in the Soviet government, including Dimitri Dymshits in charge of
industry, Lev Shapiro regional secretary of Birobidjan, and Yuri
Andropov in charge of the secret police, the KGB. In fact, every
secret police chief in Soviet history has been a Jew, from the first
Uritsky to the most recent, the murderous Beria. A Jew is also in
charge of the Soviet economy – Leonid Kantorovich.

It is a well-known fact that the Bolsheviks were and are financed by
Jewish interests in the West.

At a Bolshevik celebration rally in New York's Carnegie Hall on the
night of 23 March 1917, a telegram of support from Jacob Schiff of
Kuhn, Loeb & Co. was read out. The telegram was reprinted in the next
morning's New York Times. Schiff later tried to deny his involvement,
but thirty years later his grandson John admitted in the New York
Journal-American (3 February 1949) that the old man had sunk twenty
million dollars into the Bolshevik cause.

Another Western bankers who poured funds into Bolshevik Russia was
Olaf Ashberg of the Stockholm Nia Banken. He remained the Soviets'
paymaster until the late 1940s. The London Evening Standard of 6
September 1948 reported a visit by Ashberg to Switzerland "for secret
meetings with Swiss government officials and banking executives.
Diplomatic circles describe Mr. Ashberg as the 'Soviet banker' who
advanced large sums to Lenin and Trotsky in 1917. At the time of the
revolution, Mr. Ashberg gave Trotsky money to form and equip the first
unit of the Red Army."

The Bolsheviks also received assistance from Armand Hammer, who still
commutes back and forward between New York and Moscow to take care of
his business interests in both communities. Hammer's Occidental Oil
Company is at the moment building a 1600 mile chemicals pipeline in
southern Russia. He is also on such good terms with the Soviets that
he personally arranges for Soviet art galleries to lend paintings to
America.

Another American-based businessman to help out the Soviet economy is
Michael Fribourg, who owns the massive Continental Grain Company.
Together with the Louis Dreyfus Corporation, these Jewish speculators
were able to buy up vast quantities of cheap American grain in 1972,
sell it to the Soviets at a vast profit, and collect an export subsidy
>from the U.S. taxpayer.

In every other East European country, it is exactly the same story:

In Hungary a Communist revolution was staged in 1919, instigated by
the Jew Bela Kun (Cohen). During the three month regime, the country
was turned upside down in a reign of murder and terror. Here again,
the government was composed almost entirely of Jews. And it was this
factor which brought about the regime's downfall, as the ordinary
Hungarians detested Jewish dictatorship. Kun was deposed and fled to
the Soviet Union, where he became chief of the secret police, the
Cheka, in southern Russia.

It was not until 1945 that the Jews were able to regain control. Three
Russian Jews were installed as the ruling triumvirate, Matyas Rakosi
(Rosencranz), Erno Gero (Singer) and Zoltan Vas. Both Rakosi and Gero
had been members of Kun's bloody government.

In Germany, the Jews also tried to take over there in the chaos that
followed the First World War. Aided by funds from the Soviet
Ambassador Joffe, Rosa Luxemburg's Spartacus Bund attempted to
overthrow the government. The revolt was quelled and its leaders
Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht executed.

The post-war dictator of Roumania, Anna Pauker, was the daughter of a
Bucharest kosher butcher. For a time she earned her living teaching
Hebrew. her father and brother now live in Israel.

Although Tito was the only non-Jewish dictator behind the Iron Curtain
in the late 1940s, he was tutored by the Jew Mosa Pijade. According to
John Gunther in Behind the Iron Curtain, "He is Tito's mentor...
Whatever ideological structure Tito may have, he got it from the
shrewd old man."

Moscow's puppet government in Czechoslovakia in the late 1940s was run
by another Jew, Rudolph Slansky.

In Poland too, Jews occupied virtually every position of authority in
the post-war Communist regime. Prominent among these were Minc,
Skryesewski, Modzelewski and Berman. Jacob Berman gradually eclipsed
the others until he became supreme dictator by himself. Also,
Gomulka's wife was a Jewess.

Even in China, Soviet Jews were at work helping Mao Tse Tung. High up
in the Political Department of the Red Army in China were W. N.
Levitschev and J. B. Gamarnik


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Deborah Sharavi's Swastika Axe - Is Sharavi really McVay?

Since Arial Sharon, the Butcher of Beirut is in a coma,
Deborah Sharavi must be using his swastika axe to kill
Palestinian children  for her "recipe":
http://aliyaallzionists.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sharon-killing-children.jpg

http://aliyaallzionists.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sharon-laughing-blood-bath.jpg

This Is How Violent Zionists Are: Zionist, Cannibalistic "Recipe":
http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200,
"Heinrich"wrote:

> As usual, you left out the part about the IDF
> eating their palestinian prey after they kill them.
> It's the reason the dead palestinian numbers
> are so low and the missing count is so high.

Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.

Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid

8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped

Divide the sage leaves into equal portions
and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole,
melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat,
and then remove and reduce the flame.
Add the onion, carrot and turnip,
cover and let simmer for an hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider.
Bring to a boil, add the bouquet garni,
cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2 hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole
and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole,
pressing down on the vegetables
to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter,
pour over some of the juices
and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

http://tinyurl.com/ddkek  (8th post)

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

http://fourthreichisrael.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-recipe/

http://letthewhitedovesing.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-"recipe"/

http://zionismequalsapartheid.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2305868%3ATopic%3A9

http://angelesdeesse.spaces.live.com/

http://chitchatzionist.blogspot.com/2008/07/bizarre-insane.html

http://www.freewebs.com/fourthreichisrael/zionistrecipe.htm

http://fourthreichisrael.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2277326%3ATopic%3A11

http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/

http://canadiansforpalestine.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2145294%3ATopic%3A1564

http://madalenalobaotellosnetwork2.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=949499%3ATopic%3A14587

http://www.xanga.com/letthewhitedovesing

Is Deborah Sharavi just another sock-puppet for fag Shabbas-goy McVay?


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From: "Jwo" 
ZYD/Ivrai/Jew Dominance in the Prostitution Industry - Exposed

http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/jewish_dominance_in_the_prostitution_industry.html

Don't forget the Eliot Spitzer case, now in the news, plus of course Billy
Clinton! All involving ZYDS and porno!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
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And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
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Dirty Work of Zionism far from Finished
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:23:54 -0600
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:36:23 -0700, in can.politics "DetectorTHX11:59:01"
 wrote:

http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/2006/08/dirty-work-of-zionism-is-unfinished.h
tml

I were to guess what actually happened to Mel Gibson, I'd say that he was
set up - he may have been out imbibing in drink, and he may have been
"partying" with young women, but the photographer that captured his drunken
behavior on the cell phone camera was probably Jewish, and he probably
called someone who sent officer Mee, also a Jew, out on a special mission to
pull over Gibson and videotape the subsequent confrontation and arrest.
Trust me, there aren't many Jewish cops in California, and the idea that one
just happened to pull over Mel Gibson on that particular night, while
driving under the influence is highly unlikely.[1]

Hopefully the Gibson smear campaign will backfire on organized Zionism, he
is still quite popular in the United States, and most of his fans couldn't
give a damn about his alleged commentary concerning Jews, despite what the
media would have us to believe. I for one will be going to see any future
Gibson movies twice. These Zionists believe, and with good reason, that is
they repetitively present an idea over and over, that the American public
will come to accept it as fact. It is for this reason that the news media
constantly foists this preposterous idea that Israel is America's ally, that
Israel is a democracy, that Israel is always blameless and the victim,
rather than perpetrator of terrorism. You must reject these lies in order to
free yourself from Zionist propagandistic technique - if you cannot embrace
pure objectivity while watching television, then you must turn off it off!
Your future and the future of your progeny depend on it. If Americans cannot
overcome the lies of the media, our children are condemned forever to fight
wars for the Zionists until we have been bled white and left penniless.

It is absolutely essential that people in today's world come to understand
that the media as we know it is absolutely and completely monopolized by
Zionists, mostly of the Jewish persuasion. This isn't a bigoted comment or
an anti-Semitic tirade; it's an absolute, undeniable, and empirical fact!
Once one has come to accept this reality, one can begin to break free from
the negative effects of this kosher propaganda. Make no mistake about it -
this is pernicious mind control at its finest. Zionist control of our media
today is so obviously evident that to deny it means that one must either be
completely stupid, delusional and/or complicit.

Another recent example of ridiculous media mendacity is this idea that the
Israel military is experiencing stiff resistance at the hands of Hizballah,
or that Israel proper is under any real threat from Katusha rockets, which
are in reality little more than large bottle rockets with a slightly bigger
bang. The media would have you believe that because Katusha rockets cannot
accurately target cities in Israel that they are somehow more of a "terror
weapon," than a 500 pound bomb that can by utilizing a special delayed fuse
cut through the roof of a family dwelling in Tyre and explode at ground
level for maximum blast effect. The truth is, Katusha rockets are all that
Hizballah has to respond to Israel's modern military technology, if
Hizballah had modern battle tanks like Israel, one could safely assume they'
d use those too, but they don't. A Katusha rocket fired by an angry and
desperate Hizballah soldier is just a step up from the rocks hurled by
Palestinian youth's in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, to believe otherwise is
to reveal one's self as a complete fool. It is essential that the American
viewing public perceive Israel as the victim and the poor, outgunned, and
desperate, Hizballah soldier as a dangerous persecutor of benevolent Jewry.
Don't be fooled, this is nothing more than the continuation of the big lie.
Once again, if you cannot grasp the concept that modern military technology
can easily defeat individuals running around with large bottle rockets on
their shoulders; then you need to turn the television off. This isn't to say
that Hizballah soldiers aren't dedicated and in some cases dangerous to
small numbers of Israeli soldiers, one has to admire their moxy and
determination, but nonetheless, in the end, all a Hizballah soldier has to
protect him against an Israeli soldier sitting behind three feet of tank
armor is a few millimeters of flesh propped up by a relatively weak skeletal
frame. But admitting to this on television isn't conducive to the picture
the establishment media wants to paint for the ignorant American. Remember
this, because if you don't, and you love your children, you'll soon find
them being drafted to kill and die for Israel. Israel needs your children
and they are already exploiting the Jewish media here in the United States
to set the stage for a future military draft that will send your children
off to die in wars that do not serve the interests of America or Americans.

Now, for the reader who refuses to believe that Jews have ever been the
perpetrators of horrific acts against defenseless persons, carefully
consider the following. On April 15, 1946, a group of Eastern European Jews
in Germany, with the complicity of Jewish American soldiers[2] poisoned the
bread of some 12,000 German POWs with arsenic and murdered more than 1000 of
them.[3] Michael Bar-Zohar, an Israeli Jew, wrote a book published in 1967
entitled The Avengers,[4] that delved into the many unbelievable atrocities
committed by Jews against Germans, both civilian and former military, i.e.
POWs in the immediate post war period. Bar-Zohar didn't pull any punches;
according to him and those he interviewed for the book the Germans deserved
it. Bar-Zohar then proceeded to explain nonchalantly how the American
military covered up the mass murder in an effort to keep the German public
in the dark. One wonders if the United States military isn't doing the same
in Iraq today?

In another passage Bar-Zohar writes about the Jewish Brigade, a military
unit adopted by the British and composed of Jews from Palestine willing to
fight on the side of the Allies during the Second World War. According to
rumors at the time the Jewish Brigade was scheduled to enter Germany
immediately following the end of hostilities. With candor, the author
described the aberrant joy felt by these Jewish soldiers as they fantasized
about what they'd do when they got to Germany, about how they would murder
German civilians in "cold blood," and rape German women:

"But now they were going to Germany! The men discussed the news with great
excitement - it was too good to be true! Give us just a month there, only a
month" they told each other. "We'll give them something to remember us by
forever. They'll have real reasons for hating us now. We'll have just one
pogrom - in round numbers, we'll burn down a thousand houses and kill five
hundred people and rape one hundred women." And more than one youngster was
heard to say: "I must kill a German in cold blood [Note, there is no
distinction between combatant and civilian - italics mine], I must. And I
must rape a German girl. That's our war aim, revenge! Not Roosevelt's four
freedoms or the greater glory of the British Empire or Stalin's ideology,
but vengeance, Jewish vengeance."[5]

Well so much for the idea that Jews aren't capable of being perpetrators,
they indeed are, and if former President Truman can be believed, they are
the worst kind of perpetrators, completely and totally devoid of compassion
and without a modicum of decency or mercy for the vanquished.

"The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians,
Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as
D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when
they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin
has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an
underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian,
Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've
found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity
comes."[6]

Lastly, I'll leave the so-called Christian Zionist or the skeptic with a few
words uttered by Ariel Sharon himself to an Israeli journalist in 1983:

"Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to
have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the
Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it
means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don't care. And I
don't mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg trial
and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal. Then you
can spruce up your Jewish conscience and enter the respectable club of
civilized nations, nations that are large and healthy. What you lot don't
understand is that the dirty work of Zionism is not finished yet, far from
it."[7]

So if you continue to support Israel unconditionally you may in fact be
carrying the anti-Christ upon your shoulders to his throne in Jerusalem, one
cannot support Zionism and consider one's self a Christian, the two
religions are diametrically opposed to one another and have nothing
whatsoever in common. The Jewish media in America has made Ariel Sharon into
a saint, despite the fact that the man is a monster, and unless you are
willing to support the devil's "dirty work," you had better take care as to
what you believe in the near future. Quite obviously if a "synagogue or
 two," were to go up in flames, one cannot, with any conscience anyway,
automatically assume it's Arab terrorists or Nazi's that committed the act,
after all, Sharon himself said such a thing wouldn't bother him in the
least. Consider too that when an American city goes up in a mushroom cloud,
and the Jewish media and Zionist occupied government claim that Iran and/or
Syria did it, that the very same scum have the American media in a virtual
stranglehold too. No, you can bet that the "dirty work of Zionism is not
finished yet, far from it."

[1] I spent three years in the United States Army and never met a single
Jew. My brother spent six years in the United States Navy and only met one
Jewish sailor. I personally have never met a Jewish police officer, nor have
I ever read about one that worked in any area in law enforcement other than
as a spokesperson and/or in administration.

[2] Bar-Zohar, Michael. The Avengers. 1967. Hawthorn Books, inc, New York.
Pg 48.

[3] According to Michael Bar-Zohar, in his book The Avengers, as many as
three thousand may have died. Pg 42.
[4] Bar-Zohar, Michael. The Avengers. 1967. Hawthorn Books, inc, New York.
[5] Bar-Zohar, Michael. The Avengers. 1967. Hawthorn Books, inc, New York.
Pg. 20-21.

[6] The Washington Post. Washington DC, USA. Friday, July 11, 2003.
[7] Oz, Amos. [1983] Les voix d'israel, Calmann-Levy, Paris. Translated by
Guy Seniak. [Interview on pages 79-91].

--
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Israel is Safe Haven for International Jewish Criminals

On 12 Aug 2006 11:22:59 -0700, in can.politics "AlX"
 wrote:

The main reason that world Jewry wants Israel to exist -  tho many
Jews are not willing to live there - is as a refuge for Jewish
fugitives from around the world.  If a Jewish crook is able to make it to
Israel, he is home free.  Israel will not extradite a Jew to any
other country to face criminal charges - not even to the U.S.
without whose support Israel would not even exist.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Israeli 9/11 Crook Flees with $57 Million to Israel

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91721


Jacob "Kobi" Alexander, the Israeli founder of Comverse Technology,
one of the leading Mossad companies involved in the terror attacks has
fled justice in the United States and escaped to Israel with at least
$57 million of ill-gotten gains.

As todays New York Times reports:

New York - Describing a brazen scheme to manipulate the granting of
options, federal prosecutors have charged three former executives of
Comverse Technology with mail fraud, securities fraud and wire fraud.

In charging the former executives on Tuesday, prosecutors said they
had used fictitious employees to create a secret slush fund of options
to be distributed to favored employees.

The former chief executive, Jacob Alexander, who had built Comverse
into a $1 billion leader in the communications software market, did
not appear in court and is believed to have fled to Germany or Israel,
according to a person briefed on the investigation. A warrant was
issued for his arrest.

Alexander is highly regarded in Israel, where he once owned a stake in
a Tel Aviv professional basketball team and where Comverse has
extensive business operations.

In late July, he wired $57 million to an account in Israel, according
to court filings from the Justice Department. Millions more are
believed to remain in his accounts in the United States, which
prosecutors have asked to be frozen.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/10/business/options.php

(End of quote)

Kobi Alexander should be arrested and interrogated about his knowledge
of the events of 9/11. His company acquired the other Mossad firm,
Odigo, shortly after it was revealed that Odigo employees had been
forewarned of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

This is the tip of the Israeli criminal mafia who is behind the terror
attacks on 9/11.

Here is a relevant section from one of my articles about Mossad's
involvement in 9/11, which I posted on RMN on April 7, 2005:

At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an
imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first
plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the
WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the
authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands
of lives.

Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out
and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli
nationality.

Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo's vice president,
reportedly said, "It was possible that the attack warning was
broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received
reports of other recipients of the message."

The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two
months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the
matter. There have been no media reports since.

Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its
Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small
town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad's
headquarters are located.

Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology,
another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse
were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from "insider
trading."

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985

Kobi Alexander the Israeli crook who owned the Mossad companies who
had clear foreknowledge of the terror attacks of 9/11. Alexander
transferred $57 million to Israel and fled to Israel as a fugitive
>from justice. Why didn't the police arrest him before he was able to
get away? Who warned him and allowed him to flee? This man is
connected to the terror attacks of 9/11.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
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Or, other useful websites include:
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IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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American Jews involved in Russia as Commisars
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:21:16 -0700
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:02:28 +1000, in alt.revisionism "Benja'min"
 wrote:

A table made up in 1918, by Robert Wilton, correspondent of the
London Times in Russia, shows at that time there were 384 commissars
including 2 Negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22 Armenians
and more than 300 Jews. Of the latter number 264 had come from
the United States since the downfall of the Imperial Government.

U.S. National Archives. (1919). Record Group 120: Records of the 
American Expeditionary Forces, June 9.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
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Even in Israel, they know who controls the drugs trade!!

ISRAEL , CENTRE OF DRUG TRADE, HAARETZ
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:22:22 -0600
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:11:43 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

            Israelis at center of ecstasy drug trade

            By Nathan Guttman

            Israel is at the center of international trade in the drug 
ecstasy, according to a document published last week by the U.S. State 
Department.

            In recent years, organized crime in Israel, some with links to 
criminal organizations in Russia, have come to control the distribution of 
the drug in Europe, according to a Bureau for International Narcotics and 
Law Enforcement Affairs document.

            The same document also points out that Israeli criminal groups 
have a hand in the distribution of ecstasy in North America.

            During 2000, 80 percent of the ecstasy seized in North America 
originated in the Netherlands, which is the largest production center, along 
with Belgium and Poland. The State Department is certain that Israeli 
organizations are linked to the laboratories in the Netherlands and are 
responsible for the worldwide distribution.

            "Israeli drug distribution organizations are currently the main 
source for distribution of the drug to groups inside the U.S., to smuggling 
through express mail services, through couriers on commercial flights and, 
recently, through air cargo," states the report. In the past two years, the 
U.S. has dealt more severely with ecstasy. Federal judges deal with 
smugglers in the ecstasy trade with the same severity as heroin and cocaine 
dealers.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
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Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
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or to Steve Horn - kcom @ breakthru.com,
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ZYDS/Jews and Bolshevism Which Was Controlled By The ZYDS!

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:55:33 -0400, in alt.revisionism
chester_field@fastmail.fm wrote:

ZYDs/Jews and Bolshevism
 
Amongst themselves, the Jews are quite candid about their sympathy for
and involvement in Bolshevism.

On 4 April 1919 the Jewish Chronicle: "There is much in the fact of
Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in
the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant
with the finest ideals of Judaism."

(Perhaps this explains why the Red Army uses a Jewish star as its
symbol?)

Probably the best-known exposé of the Jewish role in the Bolshevik
coup d'état was by Sir Winston Churchill, writing in the Illustrated
Sunday Herald of 8 February 1920. Churchill wrote "With the notable
exception of Lenin, the majority of leading figures are Jews. Moreover
the principal inspiration and the driving power comes from Jewish
leaders."

Communism was of course founded by Karl Marx whose grandfather was a
rabbi by the name of Mordeccai. Marx was given his initial
encouragement by a Communist-Zionist by the name of Moses Hess. As
founder and editor of the Rheinische Zeitung, the main organ of
leftist thought in Germany, he provided Karl Marx with his first
important platform. Later, in Brussels, he collaborated with Marx on
The German Ideology. It was Hess too who converted to Communism
Friedrich Engels, the wealthy textiles magnate who later subsidised
Marx from the profits of sweated labour in Britain and Germany.

When the Bolsheviks overthrew the short-lived democratic government in
Moscow and St. Petersburg in October 1917, it was a virtual Jewish
coup d'état. The most prominent Jewish Commissar was Trotsky, real
name Bronstein. He had been married by a rabbi in 1900, and whilst in
exile in New York he had worked for Novy Mir, described in the Church
Times (23 January 1925) as a "Yiddish newspaper."

The various reporters and diplomats who were there at the time of the
"Revolution" have given evidence as to its Jewish nature.

The widow of the Guardian's correspondent Mrs. Ariadna
Tyrkova-Williams wrote: "In the Soviet Republic all the committees and
commissaries were filled with Jews."

The most detailed description of Jewish influence in the Bolshevik
'revolution comes from Robert Wilton, the Russian correspondent of The
Times. In 1920 he published a book in French, Les Derniers Jours des
Romanofs, which gave the racial background of all the members of the
Soviet government. (This does not appear in the later English
translation, for some odd reason.) After the publication of this
monumental work, Wilton was ostracised by the press, and he died in
poverty in 1925. He reported that the Central Committee of the
Bolshevik Party was made up as follows:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Lourie (Larine) 	Jew
Ouritski 	Jew
Volodarski 	Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) 	Jew
Smidovitch 	Jew
Sverdlof (Yankel) 	Jew
Nakhamkes (Steklof) 	Jew
Ulyanov (Lenin) 	Russian
Krylenko 	Russian
Lounatcharski 	Russian



 
"The Council of the People's Commissars comprises the following:

 
MINISTRY 	NAME 	NATIONALITY
President 	Ulyanov (Lenin) 	Russian
Foreign Affairs 	Tchitcherine 	Russian
Nationalities 	Djugashvili (Stalin) 	Georgian
Agriculture 	Protian 	Armenian
Economic Council 	Lourie (Larine) 	Jew
Food 	Schlichter 	Jew
Army & Navy 	Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
State Control 	Lander 	Jew
State Lands 	Kauffman 	Jew
Works 	V. Schmidt 	Jew
Social Relief 	E. Lelina (Knigissen) 	Jewess
Public Instruction 	Lounatcharsky 	Russian
Religions 	Spitzberg 	Jew
Interior 	Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Hygiene 	Anvelt 	Jew
Finance 	Isidore Goukovski 	Jew
Press 	Volodarski 	Jew
Elections 	Ouritski 	Jew
Justice 	I. Steinberg 	Jew
Refugees 	Fenigstein 	Jew
Refugees (assist.) 	Savitch 	Jew
Refugees (assist.) 	Zaslovski 	Jew



 
"The following is the list of members of the Central Executive
Committee:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Sverdlov (president) 	Jew
Avanessof (sec.) 	Armenian
Bruno 	Lett
Babtchinski 	Jew
Bukharin 	Russian
Weinberg 	Jew
Gailiss 	Jew
Ganzburg 	Jew
Danichevski 	Jew
Starck 	German
Sachs 	Jew
Scheinmann 	Jew
Erdling 	Jew
Landauer 	Jew
Linder 	Jew
Wolach 	Czech
Dimanstein 	Jew
Encukidze 	Georgian
Ermann 	Jew
Joffe 	Jew
Karkline 	Jew
Knigissen 	Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamenef) 	Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Krylenko 	Russian
KrassikofSachs 	Jew
Kaprik 	Jew
Kaoul 	Lett
Ulyanov (lenin) 	Russian
Latsis 	Jew
Lander 	Jew
Lounatcharski 	Russian
Peterson 	Lett
Peters 	Lett
Roudzoutas 	Jew
Rosine 	Jew
Smidovitch 	Jew
Stoutchka 	Lett
Nakhamkes (Steklof) 	Jew
Sosnovski 	Jew
Skrytnik 	Jew
Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
Teodorovitch 	Jew
Terian 	Armenian
Ouritski 	Jew
Telechkine 	Russian
Feldmann 	Jew
Froumkine 	Jew
Souriupa 	Ukranian
Tchavtchevadze 	Georgian
Scheikmann 	Jew
Rosental 	Jew
Achkinazi 	Imeretian
Karakhane 	Karaim (Jew)
Rose 	Jew
Sobelson (Radek) 	Jew
Sclichter 	Jew
Schikolini 	Jew
Chklianski 	Jew
Levine (Pravdine) 	Jew



 
"The following is the list of members of the Extraordinary Commission
of Moscow:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Dzerjinski (president) 	Pole
Peters (vice-president) 	Lett
Chklovski 	Jew
Kheifiss 	Jew
Zeistine 	Jew
Razmirovitch 	Jew
Kronberg 	Jew
Khaikina 	Jewess
Karlson 	Lett
Schaumann 	Jew
Leontovitch 	Jew
Jacob Goldine 	Jew
Glaperstein 	Jew
Kniggisen 	Jew
Latzis 	Lett
Schillenkuss 	Jew
Janson 	Lett
Rivkine 	Jew
Antonof 	Russian
Delafabre 	Jew
Tsitkine 	Jew
Roskirovitch 	Jew
G. Sverdlof 	Jew
Biesenski 	Jew
Blioumkine 	Jew
Alexandrevitch 	Russian
I. Model 	Jew
Routenberg 	Jew
Pines 	Jew
Sachs 	Jew
Daybol 	Lett
Saissoune 	Armenian
Deylkenen 	Lett
Liebert 	Jew
Vogel 	German
Zakiss 	Lett


 
Although Lenin is described as a "Russian," in fact he was a mixture
of various nationalities. It is likely that he was one-quarter
Russian, one-quarter German, one-quarter Jewish and at least
one-quarter Kalmuck (Mongol), which accounts for his Mongol
appearance. Various authorities allege that his wife, Nadezhda
Krupskaya was a Jewess and that her family spoke Yiddish in the home.

A report sent to the British government in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke, the
Dutch consul in St. Petersburg, said that "Bolshevism is organised and
worked by Jews." The report was included in a pamphlet published as a
government White Paper in April 1919 entitled Russia No. 1 (1919) A
Collection of Reports on Bolshevism in Russia. However, the pamphlet
was quickly withdrawn and reissued with various excisions and
alterations made.

In the War Records Division of the United States National Archives
there is filed a report from an American Intelligence operative in St.
Petersburg. Under Record Group 20; Records of the American
Expeditionary Forces Capt. Montgomery Schuyler, G2 Intelligence wrote,
"The Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning, guided
and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type."

Also in the U.S. National Archives are two telegrams sent by American
diplomats in Russia. State Department document 861.00/1757 sent on 2
May 1918 by U.S. Consul Summers in Moscow relates, "Jews predominant
in local Soviet government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among
population." Document 861.00/2205 from Consul Caldwell in Vladivostock
on 5 July 1918 describes, "Fifty per cent of Soviet government in each
town consists of Jews of worst type."

In January, 1924, Lenin died from causes variously described as 'a
heart attack,' brain hemorrhage' and 'syphilis.' His comrades
immediately began fighting amongst themselves to see who was to become
his successor.

A relative outsider, Joseph Stalin, came to the fore and purged all
competition either by exiling or executing them. Since Stalin was not
Jewish, yet nearly all his opponents were, it is often suggested that
Stalin was anti-Semitic. This is far from the truth.

Stalin had three wives, all of them Jewesses. The first was Ekaterina
Svanidze who bore him one son, Jacob. His second wife was Kadya
Allevijah. She bore him a son Vassili and a daughter Svetlana. His
second wife died in mysterious circumstances, either by committing
suicide or murdered by Stalin. His third wife was Rosa Kaganovich, the
sister of Lazar Kaganovich, the head of Soviet industry. Stalin's
daughter (who in 1967 fled to the USA) then married Lazar's son Mihail
i.e. her step-mother's nephew. Svetlana Stalin had a total of four
husbands, three of them Jewish.

Stalin's vice-president Molotov was also married to a Jewess, whose
brother, Sam Karp, runs an export business in Connecticut. Just to
complicate things even more, the Molotov's (half-Jewish) daughter also
called Svetlana was engaged to be married to Stalin's son Vassili.

After the death of Stalin, his successors kept up the tradition, for a
report in the B'nai B'rith Messenger relates: "To show that Russia
treats its Jews well, Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschev this week
remarked at a reception at the Polish Embassy that not only he himself
and Soviet President Klementi Voroshilov, but also half the members of
the Praesidium have Jewish wives. Mr. Kruschev made this remark to
Israeli Ambassador Joseph Avidar, who was amongst the guests."
(Kruschev's wife was yet another Kaganovitch.)

According to a report in The Canadian Jewish News of 13 November 1964
the present Soviet boss Leonid Brezhnev is married to a Jewess, and
his children are brought up as Jews. There are a number of prominent
Jews in the Soviet government, including Dimitri Dymshits in charge of
industry, Lev Shapiro regional secretary of Birobidjan, and Yuri
Andropov in charge of the secret police, the KGB. In fact, every
secret police chief in Soviet history has been a Jew, from the first
Uritsky to the most recent, the murderous Beria. A Jew is also in
charge of the Soviet economy – Leonid Kantorovich.

It is a well-known fact that the Bolsheviks were and are financed by
Jewish interests in the West.

At a Bolshevik celebration rally in New York's Carnegie Hall on the
night of 23 March 1917, a telegram of support from Jacob Schiff of
Kuhn, Loeb & Co. was read out. The telegram was reprinted in the next
morning's New York Times. Schiff later tried to deny his involvement,
but thirty years later his grandson John admitted in the New York
Journal-American (3 February 1949) that the old man had sunk twenty
million dollars into the Bolshevik cause.

Another Western bankers who poured funds into Bolshevik Russia was
Olaf Ashberg of the Stockholm Nia Banken. He remained the Soviets'
paymaster until the late 1940s. The London Evening Standard of 6
September 1948 reported a visit by Ashberg to Switzerland "for secret
meetings with Swiss government officials and banking executives.
Diplomatic circles describe Mr. Ashberg as the 'Soviet banker' who
advanced large sums to Lenin and Trotsky in 1917. At the time of the
revolution, Mr. Ashberg gave Trotsky money to form and equip the first
unit of the Red Army."

The Bolsheviks also received assistance from Armand Hammer, who still
commutes back and forward between New York and Moscow to take care of
his business interests in both communities. Hammer's Occidental Oil
Company is at the moment building a 1600 mile chemicals pipeline in
southern Russia. He is also on such good terms with the Soviets that
he personally arranges for Soviet art galleries to lend paintings to
America.

Another American-based businessman to help out the Soviet economy is
Michael Fribourg, who owns the massive Continental Grain Company.
Together with the Louis Dreyfus Corporation, these Jewish speculators
were able to buy up vast quantities of cheap American grain in 1972,
sell it to the Soviets at a vast profit, and collect an export subsidy
>from the U.S. taxpayer.

In every other East European country, it is exactly the same story:

In Hungary a Communist revolution was staged in 1919, instigated by
the Jew Bela Kun (Cohen). During the three month regime, the country
was turned upside down in a reign of murder and terror. Here again,
the government was composed almost entirely of Jews. And it was this
factor which brought about the regime's downfall, as the ordinary
Hungarians detested Jewish dictatorship. Kun was deposed and fled to
the Soviet Union, where he became chief of the secret police, the
Cheka, in southern Russia.

It was not until 1945 that the Jews were able to regain control. Three
Russian Jews were installed as the ruling triumvirate, Matyas Rakosi
(Rosencranz), Erno Gero (Singer) and Zoltan Vas. Both Rakosi and Gero
had been members of Kun's bloody government.

In Germany, the Jews also tried to take over there in the chaos that
followed the First World War. Aided by funds from the Soviet
Ambassador Joffe, Rosa Luxemburg's Spartacus Bund attempted to
overthrow the government. The revolt was quelled and its leaders
Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht executed.

The post-war dictator of Roumania, Anna Pauker, was the daughter of a
Bucharest kosher butcher. For a time she earned her living teaching
Hebrew. her father and brother now live in Israel.

Although Tito was the only non-Jewish dictator behind the Iron Curtain
in the late 1940s, he was tutored by the Jew Mosa Pijade. According to
John Gunther in Behind the Iron Curtain, "He is Tito's mentor...
Whatever ideological structure Tito may have, he got it from the
shrewd old man."

Moscow's puppet government in Czechoslovakia in the late 1940s was run
by another Jew, Rudolph Slansky.

In Poland too, Jews occupied virtually every position of authority in
the post-war Communist regime. Prominent among these were Minc,
Skryesewski, Modzelewski and Berman. Jacob Berman gradually eclipsed
the others until he became supreme dictator by himself. Also,
Gomulka's wife was a Jewess.

Even in China, Soviet Jews were at work helping Mao Tse Tung. High up
in the Political Department of the Red Army in China were W. N.
Levitschev and J. B. Gamarnik


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There Is NO GROSVENOR posting, just me pretending to be a Grosvenor!
Frank Arthur=Grosvenor= Ken McVay - Invites Calls & Visits

Frank Arthur = I frequently use aliases: Grosvenor or Ken McVay - 
I do Invite Calls & Visits.

Yes  people, I  really am the foul misbegotten pestilence  known 
by many as  Frank Arthur - often  using the alias Grosvenor - 
and sometimes alias  Ken McVay or even Dr.Lippshitz.

No wonder people think of me, Frank Arthur as real subhuman dreck!

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
Feel free to call, or even visit me; 
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 
Map to Frankie's residence:
http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315


As Frank Arthur I sometimes post via Bellsouth Internet Group.

As the fraud Grosvenor and similar aliases [which is me]  
I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

Sometimes as Grosvenor, or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or 
Yitzhak Goldstein. I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

I don't use my degenerate father's name because I am ashamed of 
him so I steal other's names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for many years,
 so I stole his name to annoy him, and also readers! 

There are no articles posted by Grosvenor, only by me!

Many people believe that I am really  faggot Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
As this human turd I steal names.

Here are some of my names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
George Firestone,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur" 
wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
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Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
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Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
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Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art @  Arthurian.com, 
Feel free to call, or even visit me;
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 
Map to Frankie's residence:
http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315

or to Steve Horn - kcom @ breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay @ vex.net
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.

Remove spaces in email addresses before/after @

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ZYD CRIMES IN RUSSIA  EXPOSED FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE
No wonder normal people hate the filthy Christkiller ZYDS, still after more
than 2000 years!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of ZYDS/Jews in 
Soviet-era repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist 
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his 
writing career - the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet 
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of 
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the 
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together - a reference to the 
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the 
Russian Jewish population - contains three chapters discussing the Jewish 
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet 
Russia.

  But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book, 
and questioned Solzhenitsyn's motives in writing it, accusing him of factual 
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period 
"consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians" as being behind the 
genocide. But he states that all the nation's ethnic groups must share the 
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish 
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: "If I would care to 
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially 
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national 
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The 
Jews whose experience I saw - their life was softer than that of others."

Yet he added: "But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal 
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the 
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds 
were Jews, is certainly incorrect."

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of 
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about 
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given 
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and 
revolutionary genocides - and that its Jewish population should be as 
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power 
that also persecuted them.

"My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the 
psychology of the Jews - their spiritual component," he said. "I have never 
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between 
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to 
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time 
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the 
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about 
us."

But Solzhenitsyn's book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish 
leader said it was "not of any merit".

"This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes," said Yevgeny 
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. "Richard Wagner did 
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian 
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

"This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200 
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the 
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so 
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit."

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn's biographers, said that he did not think 
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. "I would not doubt his sincerity. He 
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual 
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright, 
decent, anti-Stalinist people."

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century 
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book, 
Solzhenitsyn was "absolutely right".

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how 
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure 
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were 
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including 
the cheka.

"Trotsky's idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to] 
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something 
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They 
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

"It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of 
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often 
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn's book seems much more measured 
than that."

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn's pursuit of this 
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and 
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB), 
said: "The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the 
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those 
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

"If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will 
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian 
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now."



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On 10 Nov 2006 20:19:40 -0800, in soc.culture.canada "Mirelle"
 wrote:

An important foundation of the old opium trade was the Jewish
Sassoon family (of which famous hair mogul Vidal Sassoon is an heir):

"The legend of the Jewish clan can be traced back to David Sassoon
(1792-1864). Born into a Sephardic Jewish family in Baghdad, Iraq,
David Sassoon set up the Sassoon company in Bombay, India, in 1833. In 1844,
he set up a branch in Hong Kong, and a year later, he set up his Shanghai
branch on the Bund to cash in on the opium trade. At that time, about
one-fifth of all opium brought into China was shipped on the Sassoon fleet.
They brought China opium and British textiles and took away silk, tea and
silver."
[SHANGHAI STAR,
5-10-01]

Beginning with Rothstein, American Jewish underworld
figures became prominently involved in smuggling and distributing
opium and opiates in the United States. During the 1920s and 1930s
Jews competed with Italians for dominance of the trade. The
Italian-American's racketeering predominated during World War II. This
was because of the Nazis. When the Germans began to exterminate
European Jewry, they also destroyed the Jewish criminals who
supplied American distributors." [ROCKAWAY, R., 1993, p. 8]

Rothstein's right-hand man was Louis Lepke, who took over the drug
empire when his boss died in 1928. In the 1930s associate Yasha
Katzenberg journeyed to Shanghai, China, contacted underworld figures
there, and "taught them how to make heroin."  "In the last thirties,"
says Cohen, "when officials at last figured out what Katzenberg was up
to, the League of Nations declared him an international menace. A few
years later Yasha was indicted, along with Lepke and twenty-eight
others, for violation of narcotics laws." [COHEN, R., p. 133-134]  In
the late 1940s, there were still "dozens of Jewish drug dealers roaming
New York City, the remnants of Rothstein's machine." [COHEN, p. 139]
Particularly noteworthy were Solly Gelb, Solly Gordon, Tudi Schoenfeld,
Artie West, Niggy Rutkin, Harry Koch, Sam Haas, Moe Taubman and Harry
Hechinger. Tolly Greenberg even invented a machine to turn liquid
heroin into pill form. [COHEN, p. 139-140] Harry Strauss,
"Philadelphia's gambling czar," later became involved in smuggling
"heroin into the United States from France. He reportedly earned $20
million a year from the trade." [ROCKAWAY, R., 1993, p. 33-34]

Today's drug dealing is probably the world's most profitable
crime; profit margins can range from 200% for cocaine to 1,200% for
heroin. The Colombian international drug cartel, "Kali," which
monopolizes the trade in Los Angeles and Miami, is estimated to
distribute over 80% of the world's cocaine and a third of its heroin.
Illegal drug syndicates are estimated to take in about $25 billion a
year in the United States alone. In 1998, 59 tons of cocaine and 770
pounds of heroin were confiscated by American police authorities.

Little known -- and little publicized -- in America, in recent
years the Jewish "Russian mafia," and Orthodox religious and Israeli
business networks with deep links to drug cartels, have been
instrumental in maintaining the United States drug problem. Many of
these criminals are particularly pious Jews, and a number of Orthodox
Jewish religious institutions have been used for the laundering of
literally hundreds of millions of dollars in drug money in
(particularly) New York City. (Money laundering here refers to the task
of getting huge sums of money that were paid for drugs, originally in
small bills, into a form of assets that has the appearance of
legality.) In 1994 Israeli journalist Ben Kapit exposed this story of
Jewish culpability and corruption in America's growing drug problem; he
wrote in Hebrew, to an Israeli audience, in the newspaper Ma'ariv.

http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/23drug.htm

Mirelle

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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There Is NO GROSVENOR posting, just me pretending to be a Grosvenor!
Frank Arthur = Grosvenor = Ken McVay - I Especially  Invite Calls & Visits
especially late nights

Frank Arthur = I frequently use aliases: Grosvenor or Ken McVay - 
I do Invite Calls & Visits whether you make it  days or nights.

Yes  people, I  really am the foul misbegotten pestilence  known 
by many as  Frank Arthur - often  using the alias Grosvenor - 
and sometimes alias  Ken McVay or even Deborah Sharavi.

No wonder people think of me, Frank Arthur as real subhuman dreck!

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
Feel free to call, or even visit me; 
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 
Map to Frankie's residence:
http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315


As Frank Arthur I sometimes post via Bellsouth Internet Group.

As the fraud Grosvenor and similar aliases [which is me]  
I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

Sometimes as Grosvenor, or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or 
Yitzhak Goldstein. I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

I don't use my degenerate father's name because I am ashamed of 
him so I steal other's names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for many years, so I stole his name 
to annoy him, and also readers! 

There are no articles posted by Grosvenor, only by me!

Many people believe that I am really  faggot Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
As this human turd I steal names.

Here are some of my names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
George Firestone,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur" 
wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

A Great source of   ZYD-free  news!
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art @  Arthurian.com, 
Feel free to call, or even visit me;
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 
Map to Frankie's residence:
http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315

or to Steve Horn - kcom @ breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay @ vex.net

Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.

Remove spaces in email addresses before/after @


From Art@Arthurian.com Mon Sep  8 17:32:55 EDT 2008
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ZYD CRIMES IN RUSSIA  EXPOSED FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE
No wonder normal people hate the filthy Christkiller ZYDS, still after more
than 2000 years!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of ZYDS/Jews in 
Soviet-era repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist 
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his 
writing career - the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet 
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of 
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the 
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together - a reference to the 
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the 
Russian Jewish population - contains three chapters discussing the Jewish 
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet 
Russia.

  But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book, 
and questioned Solzhenitsyn's motives in writing it, accusing him of factual 
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period 
"consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians" as being behind the 
genocide. But he states that all the nation's ethnic groups must share the 
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish 
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: "If I would care to 
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially 
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national 
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The 
Jews whose experience I saw - their life was softer than that of others."

Yet he added: "But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal 
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the 
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds 
were Jews, is certainly incorrect."

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of 
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about 
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given 
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and 
revolutionary genocides - and that its Jewish population should be as 
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power 
that also persecuted them.

"My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the 
psychology of the Jews - their spiritual component," he said. "I have never 
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between 
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to 
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time 
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the 
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about 
us."

But Solzhenitsyn's book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish 
leader said it was "not of any merit".

"This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes," said Yevgeny 
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. "Richard Wagner did 
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian 
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

"This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200 
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the 
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so 
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit."

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn's biographers, said that he did not think 
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. "I would not doubt his sincerity. He 
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual 
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright, 
decent, anti-Stalinist people."

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century 
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book, 
Solzhenitsyn was "absolutely right".

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how 
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure 
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were 
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including 
the cheka.

"Trotsky's idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to] 
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something 
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They 
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

"It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of 
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often 
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn's book seems much more measured 
than that."

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn's pursuit of this 
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and 
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB), 
said: "The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the 
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those 
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

"If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will 
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian 
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now."



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Grosvenor posts via Aioe.org NNTP Server or other anonymous remailers
-- 
================================================
Legitimate Frank Arthur posts only from BellSouth Internet Group.
Look!Turn on your header. It says- Organization:BellSouth Internet
Group
Otherwise it is a forgery and you are being defrauded!
================================================

Here is Grosvenor- supporter of child porn:
Natall news:
National Alliance:
National Vanguard (disbanded March 2007) was an American white
nationalist organization based in Charlottesville, Virginia, founded
by Kevin Alfred Strom and former members of the National Alliance.
2007 Strom was arrested by the FBI and Federal Marshals for child
pornography related charges and in 2008 he pleaded guilty and was
sentenced to 23 months in prison.
His giveaway is the LIST that includes convicted criminals and child
porn among his admirers.

LIST:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com

For years the Jew Hater Grosvomit of Canada boasts about his support
for the neo-Nazi group National Vanguard and his leader Kevin Strom.








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"ZydWatch" 
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Here is Grosvenor- supporter of child porn:
Natall news:
National Alliance:
National Vanguard (disbanded March 2007) was an American white
nationalist organization based in Charlottesville, Virginia, founded
by Kevin Alfred Strom and former members of the National Alliance.
2007 Strom was arrested by the FBI and Federal Marshals for child
pornography related charges and in 2008 he pleaded guilty and was
sentenced to 23 months in prison.
His giveaway is the LIST that includes convicted criminals and child
porn among his admirers.

LIST:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com

For years the Jew Hater Grosvomit of Canada boasts about his support
for the neo-Nazi group National Vanguard and his leader Kevin Strom.







From Art@Arthurian.com Mon Sep  8 17:32:56 EDT 2008
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If it weren't for the constant reminders by neo-Nazis, Holocaust 
deniers and assorted demented Jew-haters we might forget about WWII 
and what the Germans did there.No modern,technically advanced nation 
in the world ever brought so much destruction,murder, torture, 
suffering and human degradation  than Germans under the Nazi banner 
during that historical era.No other people ever financed, organized 
and built gas chambers & crematoria dedicated to the widespread 
slaughter of huge numbers of human beings. No other country in the 
world organized a rail transportation system dedicated to rounding 
up,primarily Jews specifically, to be delivered to various 
concentration camps for gassing to death or working to death ordinary 
innocent civillians for no other reason except their ethnicity.No 
other people, than Germans, ever organized the removal of gold teeth 
>from the cadavers, nor has any other harvest female human hair to be 
sold for industrial purposes of the German war machine. Germans paid 
for their support of Nazism and Hitler by having their cities 
destroyed, surrendered unconditionallY,occupied and forever in history 
suffer an indelible stain for their barbarism forever. Because of 
their invasion of Russia- believed by the meglomaniac Hitler,"would 
take Russia in 9 months"- resulted in Russia becoming one of the 
largest military & nuclear powers in the world. Three generations of 
Germans are and have been a democracy by choice and distance 
themselves from their horrible past. Only the remnant dregs of wannabe 
Nazis or fellow illusionists, who glory in the "good old days of 
carnage" glorify Hitler and continue to hate Jews.
Germany's Chancellor(freely elected by the German people) Angela 
Merkel, addressed the Knesset, Israel's parliament, during a special 
session of the Knesset in Jerusalem.
She said,"Germany and Israel are linked "in a very special way" by the 
memory of the Holocaust, in which 6 million Jews were killed under 
Nazi Germany and its allies in World War II, she said in the first 
address a German chancellor has ever made to the Knesset.
"The Holocaust fills us with shame," she said. "I bow my head before 
the survivors and I bow my head before you in tribute to the fact that 
you were able to survive."
Anti-Semitism, racism and xenophobia "must never take root again in 
Germany or in Europe," she said, and vowed to battle any flare-ups."
Those Jew haters also hate Chancellor Merkel and consider the 
democratic German people fools too. 



From femail1583@gmail.com Fri Sep 12 16:38:11 EDT 2008
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From: "Tilly" 
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Subject: Re: Deborah Sharavi's Swastika Axe
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Tilly wrote:
:: Deborah Sharavi's Swastika Axe
::


Crap clipped.

Who do you think you are kidding dumbie.?


Message-ID: <0UQKOXEK39699.9072222222@reece.net.au>
--�
femail1583@REMOVE.gmail.com 



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Heinrich wrote:
:: Police have arrested a Holon resident on suspicion of having raped
:: his mentally disabled daughter, 17, who has also believed to have
:: been raped by her stepfather.
::
:: Officials brought the suspect, 45, to Tel Aviv Magistrate's Court on
:: Monday for a remand extension. Police arrested him after his
:: daughter told a support group for victims of sexual abuse that he
:: had raped her, and a medical check verified her complaint.
::
:: The 17-year-old had apparently made similar charges to police a
:: number of months ago, although then they did not find enough
:: evidence to make an arrest.
::
::
:: The teenager's stepfather is currently under arrest for raping the
:: teenager a few months ago, an assault which resulted in her
:: impregnation. She later had an abortion after six months.
::
:: While the stepfather initially denied having raped the 17-year-old, a
:: medical check following the abortion proved that the girl was
:: telling the truth.


Polish man accused of jailing, raping daughter
A Polish court has ordered the detention of a man accused by his daughter of 
keeping her imprisoned for six years and raping her repeatedly, in a case 
that recalled that of Austrian Josef Fritzl.


"Most probably, as a result of forced sexual intercourse ... the young woman 
gave birth to two children... in February 2005 and January 2007," said a 
statement from police in the eastern Polish town of Siemiatycze.

The police said they arrested the 45-year-old man last week after his 
21-year-old daughter sought their help. No further details were immediately 
available but an investigation is now under way.

The man was ordered held for three months pending the completion of the 
investigation, officials said.

Austria was rocked earlier this year by the case of Josef Fritzl, 73, who 
admitted he had kept his daughter imprisoned in a soundproofed basement 
under his house for 24 years, fathering seven children by her.



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Heinrich wrote:



:: Police have arrested a Holon resident on suspicion of having raped
:: his mentally disabled daughter, 17, who has also believed to have
:: been raped by her stepfather.
::
:: Officials brought the suspect, 45, to Tel Aviv Magistrate's Court on
:: Monday for a remand extension. Police arrested him after his
:: daughter told a support group for victims of sexual abuse that he
:: had raped her, and a medical check verified her complaint.
::
:: The 17-year-old had apparently made similar charges to police a
:: number of months ago, although then they did not find enough
:: evidence to make an arrest.
::
::
:: The teenager's stepfather is currently under arrest for raping the
:: teenager a few months ago, an assault which resulted in her
:: impregnation. She later had an abortion after six months.
::
:: While the stepfather initially denied having raped the 17-year-old, a
:: medical check following the abortion proved that the girl was
:: telling the truth.


Polish man accused of jailing, raping daughter





A Polish court has ordered the detention of a man accused by his daughter of
keeping her imprisoned for six years and raping her repeatedly, in a case
that recalled that of Austrian Josef Fritzl.


"Most probably, as a result of forced sexual intercourse ... the young woman
gave birth to two children... in February 2005 and January 2007," said a
statement from police in the eastern Polish town of Siemiatycze.

The police said they arrested the 45-year-old man last week after his
21-year-old daughter sought their help. No further details were immediately
available but an investigation is now under way.

The man was ordered held for three months pending the completion of the
investigation, officials said.

Austria was rocked earlier this year by the case of Josef Fritzl, 73, who
admitted he had kept his daughter imprisoned in a soundproofed basement
under his house for 24 years, fathering seven children by her.



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Vera Perks wrote:
:: "B.H. Cramer"  wrote in
:: news:1-WdnWyq1LS55KPVnZ2dnUVZ_v_inZ2d@giganews.com:
::
::: No wonder la Salzman has been quiet. She's obviously organising her
::: "friendly" little greetings for Irving, utilising the services of
::: State funded police officers.
::
:: Salzman has Irving's number, that's for sure. From what I have seen
:: here, she has your number, too, dickwad.
::
::
:: ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Is Irving going up to Lake Slocum for a little pleasuring?


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Heinrich wrote:
:: "Chris C. Larson"  schreef in bericht
:: news:48cb9f8b-4968-4f6e-aea7-cf9872c0176e@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
::: Ben "Rectal Exam" Cramer hates a long list of folks. For starters,
::: he hates:
::: Jews
::: Christians
::: Muslims
::: Women
::: Aborigines
::: Americans
::: New Zealanders
::: non-white homosexuals
::: people with facts
:::
::
:: he does not have a problem with me so get lost with your whining


'Birds of a Feather' ..............

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From femail1583@gmail.com Fri Sep 12 16:38:13 EDT 2008
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"Heinrich"  wrote in message 
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> what tilly is trying to say is that it happens all over the worlod and is 
> not happining in the jewish world only.


Exactly!



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"Heinrich"  wrote in message 
news:6ipoi6Fs10s1U1@mid.individual.net...
> JERUSALEM (AFP)---A former top agent of Israel's intelligence agency 
> Mossad suggested that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad be snatched 
> and dragged before the International Court of Justice.



Subject: A Jew suggests kidnapping Ahmedinedjad.
Bloody good idea if it was possible.  lol



> "We must snatch the Iranian president who uses the same discourse as 
> Hitler on the need to exterminate the people of Israel, in order to take 
> him to the International Court in the Hague," said Pensioners Minister 
> Rafi Eitan, who is a member of Israel's security cabinet.
>
> "I believe Mossad has the capability of doing this," he told army radio.
>
> He said he had no advice as to how such an operation would be carried out.
> "I leave that up to younger people," said Eitan, 81.
>
> As a senior Mossad agent, Eitan organised and participated in the daring 
> capture in Buenos Aires of fugitive Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann.
>
> Eichmann, who was considered one of the leading architects of the 
> Holocaust, was covertly flown to Israel where he was sentenced to death 
> and hanged.
>
> Eitan said last week that Mossad cancelled at the last minute a plan to 
> also snatch notorious Nazi doctor Josef Mengele in Argentina in 1960, so 
> as not to jeopardise the capture of Eichmann



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127.0.0.1 wrote:


:: God forbid, I'm the only teenager in America to ever engage in
:: underage drinking.
::
:: Hey, Tilly, how old were you when you had you your first drink?

I had a tiny glass of wine every Shabbat from about the age of ten, but I 
never stole a drink from my parents or anyone else.
I was taught to drink in a civilised manner.
Drinking and driving was an absolute 'no,no'.

What
:: about you Sara? Oh, that's right, you girls never had a nip until you
:: were of age (and then you didn't like it)

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B.H. Cramer wrote:
:: "Roger"  wrote in message
:: news:utg6c4lc4l52s0vroql6koqe9hfkk52lp1@4ax.com...
::: In one age, called the Second Age by some,
:::   (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
:::      someone claiming to be B.H. Cramer wrote
:::         in message :
:::
:::: "Roger"  wrote in message
:::: news:j4g6c45l0bp4i448s50db50oms7j71cbvs@4ax.com...
:::
:::::::: In non-dysfunctional familes there is no specific, personal
:::::::: ownership.
:::::::
::::::: So, you purchase hard liquor with the implicit understanding
::::::: that your under age children are allowed to drink it?
:::
:::::: Why are you now attempting, pathetically, to change the rules of
:::::: engagement,
:::::: woger.
::::::
:::::: What you have just raised is a separate issue.
:::
::::: But you have not addressed *any* of the issues, let alone:
:::::
:::::  
:::::
::::: In what way is taking something, not obtained or manufactured to
::::: be shared by the person who got / made it without their
::::: permission *not* stealing?
:::
:::: I did address it, idiot.
::::
:::: In a normal, non-dysfunctional, non-yid family, there is common
:::: ownership.
::::
:::: Can't you read, idiot?
:::
::: Ah, so every one of your children is listed as an account holder for
::: your checking account, fully authorized to spend every last penny
::: on, say, bubble gum?  They could call up the broker / trustee and
::: reinvest your retirement fund in, I dunno, Webkins?  They are, each
::: and every one, listed on the deed to your house, able to mortgage
::: it to finance that trip to go see "Sesame Street Live" -- in L.A.?
::: They all carry the keys to your car?  They all have keys to the
::: safety deposit box? They, each and every one, carry a copy of any
::: credit / debit cards you may have?
::
:: And here's a whole bunch of "facts" (read lies) from the woger
:: wanker.
::
:: Doncha just love the way these yid turds operate?


In other words 'no'.


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127.0.0.1 wrote:


::
:: A week before school started some friends and I gave some drunk $10
:: to go 2 the store and buy us a few cases of Heineken.

So you encouraged someone with a drinking problem to indulge in illegal 
activities, because you weren't prepared to risk taking responsibilty for 
your actions  if you did it yourself and got caught.?
Or were you just too lazy?



 When is the
:: last time you paid for beer?

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127.0.0.1 wrote:

:: Hardly; You're husband sounds like a pussy who's at your beck and
:: call - that's why you don't respect him enough to use his last name.
::
:: If your husband was a REAL MAN - He would say look woman, YOU WILL
:: TAKE AND USE MY LAST NAME, end of story!!

Tommy, you are an abuser in the making!

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B.H. Cramer wrote:


::
:: I have said nothing like it at all, lying cunt.

Yes you have.

To be fair you don't like aging male bodies either.

:::
:::: Why don't you just shut your filthy, lying mouth?
:::
::: Touched a nerve again.
::
:: Nope. I simply offer you sage advice by way of a question.
::
:: An person as "intelligent" as you continuously say you are should
:: have no difficulty in understanding the concept.

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Two men have been charged with more than 220 sex offences at prayer sessions 
of a western Sydney church.


Police say one of the men had claimed he could speak to angels and remove 
curses.

The men, aged 61 and 38, are highly regarded members of the Greek Orthodox 
and Coptic Orthodox communities, police say.

They are alleged to have committed the offences over a period of four years 
on a young woman who believed she was cursed.

Police allege the older man claimed to be a spiritual mentor who was able to 
speak to angels to remove curses and banish evil spirits.

They allege the victim believed she and her family had been cursed by a 
member of the Greek community practising black magic and that they would all 
suffer terrible consequences including death and illness unless the curse 
was removed.

The woman told police she attended many prayer sessions at various hotels 
between 2001 and 2005 where she was blindfolded and sexually assaulted.

It's alleged she paid the men between $A500 and $A1000 ($NZ623 and 
$NZ1246.10) for each prayer session and by 2005 had paid at least $A70,000.

Fairfield Local Area Commander, Acting Superintendent Gary Bailey, said 
police could not rule out the possibility there had been other victims.

"Two extremely courageous women have already come forward with information 
which has led to the arrests of these two men," Bailey said.

"We will allege these women have been the cruel prey of callous individuals 
who used religious fear to manipulate and abuse them for their sexual 
gratification and financial gain.

"Sexual offences are heinous but an offender who hides behind the cloak of 
religious respectability is particularly vile," Bailey said.

"Our investigations are far from over and we cannot rule out the possibility 
of other victims and I would urge any woman or person, particularly in the 
Greek Orthodox or Coptic community, with any information to come forward.

"These two women have already shown tremendous strength and courage to 
overcome the embarrassment and shame they feel to contact police.

"For that they deserve to be acknowledged."

A 61-year-old man and a 38-year-old man were arrested at their homes this 
morning.

They were expected to appear at Burwood Local Court later today charged with 
151 and 79 sexual offences, respectively.

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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva 
and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage 
bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman 
from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe 
Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money 
to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would 
be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took 
in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud 
has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been 
accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in 
Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of 
behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious 
community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other 
criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers 
to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a 
device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have 
the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of 
the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a 
company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence 
by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the 
Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed 
Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe 
there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los 
Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the 
same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns --
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent 
to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from 
going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding 
that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the 
country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside 
of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to 
know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis 
say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners 
than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply 
only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the 
late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an 
hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the 
upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and 
most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a 
few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to 
have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead 
his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

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I'll Always Be Here wrote:
:::  from the same newspaper as tilly's article:
::: The American medical student alleged to have wanted to use a woman
::: from New Zealand and her two daughters to breed a "family" of sex
::: slaves has been refused permission to spend his bail period in a
::: house near schools.
:::
:::
::: A United States federal judge, Susan Baxter, has refused permission
::: for Jeremy Noyes, 30, to await trial in a city of Erie
::: neighbourhood, within a kilometre or so of seven schools.
::
::
:: Yes, another good christian
::
::
:::
::: "I have concluded that no conditions will ensure the safety of the
::: community," Ms Baxter said at a hearing in US District Court.
:::
::: The ruling marked a reversal of the position she took at Noyes'
::: first detention hearing on August 22, when she released him on
::: $US10,000 ($NZ15,500) unsecured bond so he could stay with friends
::: at a rural residence. Noyes, asked to return to prison a day later
::: when his hosts received threats.
:::
::: Noyes now wants to live in the city, and said his father would move
::: in to keep an eye on him, but the judge refused, noting the
::: proximity of schools and the wide availability of wireless internet
::: connections.
:::
::: She said prosecutors had provided new information that Noyes had
::: chatted online in the past about how to avoid authorities and
::: escape the country with fake documents.
:::
::: Assistant US Attorney Christian Trabold also announced that a
::: federal grand jury had indicted Noyes on four counts stemming from
::: hundreds of images of child pornography and sexually explicit
::: cartoons the FBI said agents found on his computer.
:::
::: Most of the images involved children younger than six months being
::: sexually abused by adults, Mr Trabold said.
:::
::: Noyes faces one count each of transporting child pornography,
::: receiving child pornography, possession of child pornography and
::: transporting obscene materials.
:::
::: The FBI investigated Noyes after getting a complaint from a fellow
::: medical student who had sought out Noyes on a bondage website.
:::
::: The female student warned agents that Noyes planned to bring a woman
::: from New Zealand to the United States to start a colony of sex
::: slaves.
:::
::: At Noyes' first detention hearing, in August, the investigating
::: agent, Thomas Brenneis, testified that writings found on Noyes'
::: computer praised Hitler and Nietzsche and the notion of a "master
::: race."
:::
::: Brenneis also said the writings charted a 10-year plan in which
::: Noyes would use a woman from New Zealand and her daughters, a
::: four-year-old and an infant, to breed up to 15 daughters who would
::: be subservient to Noyes' sexual demands.
:::
::: Testimony also included evidence that Noyes had stockpiled silver
::: and gold so authorities could not seize his assets.
:::
::: Noyes' lawyer, Thomas Patton, an assistant federal public defender,
::: said the government had produced no evidence that the woman from
::: New Zealand actually existed.
:::
::: Mr Trabold said the writings provide a window into Noyes' mindset.
:::
::: "This defendant wants nothing more than to terrorise children," he
::: said.
:::
::: - NZPA


Pediatrics were his future specialty of choice.


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B.H. Cramer wrote:
:: Thank you Heinrich. The little twat left out the American part,
:: implying the offenders were Australian.
::
:: Deceit - A typically yid practice.


Geez Cramer, get your facts right.
These are two different cases, one I posted about, the other heinrich 
p[osted.
Both stories were on Stuff..
The ones I posted about are Australians .

::
::
:::
:::
::: A United States federal judge, Susan Baxter, has refused permission
::: for Jeremy Noyes, 30, to await trial in a city of Erie
::: neighbourhood, within a kilometre or so of seven schools.
:::
::: "I have concluded that no conditions will ensure the safety of the
::: community," Ms Baxter said at a hearing in US District Court.
:::
::: The ruling marked a reversal of the position she took at Noyes'
::: first detention hearing on August 22, when she released him on
::: $US10,000 ($NZ15,500) unsecured bond so he could stay with friends
::: at a rural residence. Noyes, asked to return to prison a day later
::: when his hosts received threats.
:::
::: Noyes now wants to live in the city, and said his father would move
::: in to keep an eye on him, but the judge refused, noting the
::: proximity of schools and the wide availability of wireless internet
::: connections.
:::
::: She said prosecutors had provided new information that Noyes had
::: chatted online in the past about how to avoid authorities and
::: escape the country with fake documents.
:::
::: Assistant US Attorney Christian Trabold also announced that a
::: federal grand jury had indicted Noyes on four counts stemming from
::: hundreds of images of child pornography and sexually explicit
::: cartoons the FBI said agents found on his computer.
:::
::: Most of the images involved children younger than six months being
::: sexually abused by adults, Mr Trabold said.
:::
::: Noyes faces one count each of transporting child pornography,
::: receiving child pornography, possession of child pornography and
::: transporting obscene materials.
:::
::: The FBI investigated Noyes after getting a complaint from a fellow
::: medical student who had sought out Noyes on a bondage website.
:::
::: The female student warned agents that Noyes planned to bring a
::: woman from New Zealand to the United States to start a colony of
::: sex slaves.
:::
::: At Noyes' first detention hearing, in August, the investigating
::: agent, Thomas Brenneis, testified that writings found on Noyes'
::: computer praised Hitler and Nietzsche and the notion of a "master
::: race."
:::
::: Brenneis also said the writings charted a 10-year plan in which
::: Noyes would use a woman from New Zealand and her daughters, a
::: four-year-old and an infant, to breed up to 15 daughters who would
::: be subservient to Noyes' sexual demands.
:::
::: Testimony also included evidence that Noyes had stockpiled silver
::: and gold so authorities could not seize his assets.
:::
::: Noyes' lawyer, Thomas Patton, an assistant federal public defender,
::: said the government had produced no evidence that the woman from
::: New Zealand actually existed.
:::
::: Mr Trabold said the writings provide a window into Noyes' mindset.
:::
::: "This defendant wants nothing more than to terrorise children," he
::: said.
:::
::: - NZPA

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"B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message 
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> It's an Australia vs NZ thing, Heinrich. The poor little Kiwis loathe 
> Australia for always being the bride, whilst they're destined to forever 
> be the bridesmaid ;-)
>

  Not tonight Cramer.
The All Blacks beat the Wallies, retained the Bledislow Cup and won the Tri 
Nations.
lol


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"B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Tilly"  wrote in message 
> news:gagdke$bnf$1@aioe.org...
>> "B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message 
>> news:KKKdnRQk2OSKFlbVnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> 
>>
>>> It's an Australia vs NZ thing, Heinrich. The poor little Kiwis loathe 
>>> Australia for always being the bride, whilst they're destined to forever 
>>> be the bridesmaid ;-)
>>>
>>
>>  Not tonight Cramer.
>> The All Blacks beat the Wallies, retained the Bledislow Cup and won the 
>> Tri Nations.
>> lol
>
> Sport, twatty. Sport. Brain dead, neanderthals beating each other over the 
> heads. Nothing of significance.
>
>



Bloody bad loser.
Typical Aussie!

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 wrote in message 
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On Sep 13, 6:02 am, "Tilly"  wrote:

http://sharavidoyouenjoybeingacannibal.blogspot.com/2008/09/which-one-is-it.html

http://jewsdisgustedbyzionism.blogspot.com/2008/09/which-one-is-it.html

http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/2008/09/which-one-is-it.html

This Is How Violent Zionists Are: Zionist, Cannibalistic "Recipe":
http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200,
"Heinrich"wrote:
> As usual, you left out the part about the IDF
> eating their palestinian prey after they kill them.
> It's the reason the dead palestinian numbers
> are so low and the missing count is so high.

Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.

Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid

8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped

Divide the sage leaves into equal portions
and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole,
melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat,
and then remove and reduce the flame.
Add the onion, carrot and turnip,
cover and let simmer for an hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider.
Bring to a boil, add the bouquet garni,
cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2 hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole
and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole,
pressing down on the vegetables
to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter,
pour over some of the juices
and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

http://tinyurl.com/ddkek  (8th post)

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

http://sharavidoyouenjoybeingacannibal.blogspot.com/

http://sharavidoyouenjoybeingacannibal.blogspot.com/2008/09/are-all-zionists-cannibals-and-sadists.html

http://sharavidoyouenjoybeingacannibal.blogspot.com/2008/09/deborah-sharavi-oct-11-2004-1132-pm-on.html

http://sharavidoyouenjoybeingacannibal.blogspot.com/2008/09/which-one-is-it.html

http://sharavidoyouenjoybeingacannibal.blogspot.com/2008/09/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-for.html

http://fourthreichisrael.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-recipe/

http://letthewhitedovesing.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-"recipe"/

http://zionismequalsapartheid.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2305868%3ATopic%3A9

http://jewsdisgustedbyzionism.blogspot.com/

http://jewsdisgustedbyzionism.blogspot.com/2008/09/deborah-sharavis-swastika-axe.html

http://jewsdisgustedbyzionism.blogspot.com/2008/09/are-all-zionists-cannibals-and-sadists.html

http://jewsdisgustedbyzionism.blogspot.com/2008/09/which-one-is-it.html

http://jewsdisgustedbyzionism.blogspot.com/2008/09/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-for.html

http://angelesdeesse.spaces.live.com/

http://chitchatzionist.blogspot.com/2008/07/bizarre-insane.html

http://tinyurl.com/55vesj

http://fourthreichisrael.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2277326%3ATopic%3A11

http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/

http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/2008/09/are-all-zionists-cannibals-and-sadists.html

http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/2008/08/deborah-sharavis-zionist-cannibalistic.html

http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/2008/09/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-for.html

http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/2008/09/which-one-is-it.html

http://canadiansforpalestine.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2145294%3ATopic%3A1564

http://madalenalobaotellosnetwork2.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=949499%3ATopic%3A14587

http://www.xanga.com/letthewhitedovesing



Fuck orf Mirelle.

Appetiser and desert coming up soon.

 We are just perfecting an appetiser of' well hung, Canadaian flaps with
horseradish sauce

It's bound to be a winner.

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"B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message 
> news:catamont-DF2953.07455514092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>> In article ,
>> Gord McFee  wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/9/2008 8:57 AM, Sara Salzman wrote:
>>>
>>> > In article , "B.H.
>>> > Cramer"  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>> >> news:catamont-7FDD5C.05553409092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>> >>> In article , "B.H.
>>> >>> Cramer"  wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>> >>>> news:catamont-9D1EDB.21572808092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>> >>>>> In article , "127.0.0.1"
>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:36:30 -0500 Sara Salzman
>>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> In article ,
>>> >>>>>>> "127.0.0.1"  wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:36:55 +0000 (UTC) "I'll Always Be
>>> >>>>>>>> Here"  wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> "127.0.0.1"  wrote in
>>> >>>>>>>>> news:ndgxk.1878$f43.534@newsfe02.iad:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:43:45 -0500 Sara Salzman
>>> >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From his own words, stupid.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He thinks it's okay to drive drunk. That is wrong
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and illegal. He thinks it's okay because he says
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the law is "stupid." That is just plain stupid.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've never SAID THAT IT'S OKAY to drink and drive
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fist.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> What about 'your words' and your twisted sexual
>>> >>>>>>>>>> proclivities that has been posted all over Usent?
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't wanna talk about that do ya?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> So you believe everyone else that those postings are
>>> >>>>>>>>> from her? YOu don't believe her denial?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> She doesn't 'deny anything' with regards to the; "Sara
>>> >>>>>>>> The Fist Salzman" post.
>>> >>>>>>> What a huge lie from such a tiny brain.
>>> >>>>>> What makes you think I'm stupid? You may be a better
>>> >>>>>> monopoly player -- but I'm a better chess player.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Of course I have denied it. Constantly and consistently.
>>> >>>>>> Your denial of a post that 'you made' is trivial in the
>>> >>>>>> grand scheme of things Sara. ;-)
>>> >>>>> So you admit that I have denied it. Which makes you (wait for
>>> >>>>> it) a liar.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't support individual sexual freedom?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Absolutely not! Shove the fags back in the closet and
>>> >>>>>>>> hang the pedophiles.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Do you think Sara has a right to judge me when she has
>>> >>>>>>>> the moral equivalent of the Marquis De Sade?
>>> >>>>>>> Judge you? Oh, please. Your own words hang you, every
>>> >>>>>>> single time.
>>> >>>>>> Yet, I'm still here............
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> Of curse[sic] you are. And we're all still laughing at you.
>>> >>>> Freudian slip, salzman?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> You never make mistakes, remember?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> Why would I "remember" something I never said?
>>> >> You are forever implying you are perfect, salzman.
>>> >
>>> > Nope. Never once. But don't let facts get in your way.
>>> >
>>> >> The "I am an intelligent woman" shite becomes rather tiresome.
>>> >
>>> > Since I haven't said it, it can only be tiresome to someone who has
>>> > rather strange ideas of interpretation and implication.
>>> >
>>> >> Forever having to flog your own credentials speaks volumes of your
>>> >> insecurity, you depraved piece of shit.
>>> >
>>> > Really? When was the last time I "flogged my credentials," Mr.
>>> > Cramer? You certainly seem rather touchy abut this, aren't you?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>> But I do notice that even you are too embarrassed to support
>>> >>> Tommy's drivel.
>>> >> Shut up, salzman. You are a disgrace to humanity, womanhood and
>>> >> decency.
>>> >
>>> > Oooh, touched a nerve, did I?
>>> >
>>> > And yet you STILL don't defend Tommy's idiocy, do you?
>>> >> You are a class "A" piece of shit. Far worse than the other piece
>>> >> of slime who infests this group - the sharavi thing.
>>> >
>>> > Oh, gee. Mr. Cramer doesn't like me. Gosh. Gee whiz.
>>>
>>> Actually, he's really pissed because you have wiped the floor with him.
>>> But I expect he's mad about you.
>>
>> And yet after requesting my "real" email address, he's never even
>> bothered to try and find out if it works.
>
> Something you can put down to yourself, salzman.
>
> I have no interest in communicating with you via email following your 
> horseshit, lies and nastiness since the address was provided.
>
> Situation normal, when dealing with you and your type.
>
>
>
>



Priceless Cramer...priceless.

ROTFLMAO.

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>>>> In article ,
>>>> Gord McFee  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/9/2008 8:57 AM, Sara Salzman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > In article , "B.H.
>>>>> > Cramer"  wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:catamont-7FDD5C.05553409092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>> >>> In article , "B.H.
>>>>> >>> Cramer"  wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>>>> >>>> news:catamont-9D1EDB.21572808092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>> >>>>> In article , "127.0.0.1"
>>>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:36:30 -0500 Sara Salzman
>>>>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>> >>>>>>> "127.0.0.1"  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:36:55 +0000 (UTC) "I'll Always Be
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here"  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "127.0.0.1"  wrote in
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> news:ndgxk.1878$f43.534@newsfe02.iad:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:43:45 -0500 Sara Salzman
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From his own words, stupid.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He thinks it's okay to drive drunk. That is wrong
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and illegal. He thinks it's okay because he says
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the law is "stupid." That is just plain stupid.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've never SAID THAT IT'S OKAY to drink and drive
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fist.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What about 'your words' and your twisted sexual
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> proclivities that has been posted all over Usent?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't wanna talk about that do ya?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So you believe everyone else that those postings are
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> from her? YOu don't believe her denial?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> She doesn't 'deny anything' with regards to the; "Sara
>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Fist Salzman" post.
>>>>> >>>>>>> What a huge lie from such a tiny brain.
>>>>> >>>>>> What makes you think I'm stupid? You may be a better
>>>>> >>>>>> monopoly player -- but I'm a better chess player.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course I have denied it. Constantly and consistently.
>>>>> >>>>>> Your denial of a post that 'you made' is trivial in the
>>>>> >>>>>> grand scheme of things Sara. ;-)
>>>>> >>>>> So you admit that I have denied it. Which makes you (wait for
>>>>> >>>>> it) a liar.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't support individual sexual freedom?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Absolutely not! Shove the fags back in the closet and
>>>>> >>>>>>>> hang the pedophiles.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you think Sara has a right to judge me when she has
>>>>> >>>>>>>> the moral equivalent of the Marquis De Sade?
>>>>> >>>>>>> Judge you? Oh, please. Your own words hang you, every
>>>>> >>>>>>> single time.
>>>>> >>>>>> Yet, I'm still here............
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Of curse[sic] you are. And we're all still laughing at you.
>>>>> >>>> Freudian slip, salzman?
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> You never make mistakes, remember?
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>> Why would I "remember" something I never said?
>>>>> >> You are forever implying you are perfect, salzman.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Nope. Never once. But don't let facts get in your way.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> The "I am an intelligent woman" shite becomes rather tiresome.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Since I haven't said it, it can only be tiresome to someone who has
>>>>> > rather strange ideas of interpretation and implication.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Forever having to flog your own credentials speaks volumes of your
>>>>> >> insecurity, you depraved piece of shit.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Really? When was the last time I "flogged my credentials," Mr.
>>>>> > Cramer? You certainly seem rather touchy abut this, aren't you?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>> But I do notice that even you are too embarrassed to support
>>>>> >>> Tommy's drivel.
>>>>> >> Shut up, salzman. You are a disgrace to humanity, womanhood and
>>>>> >> decency.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Oooh, touched a nerve, did I?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > And yet you STILL don't defend Tommy's idiocy, do you?
>>>>> >> You are a class "A" piece of shit. Far worse than the other piece
>>>>> >> of slime who infests this group - the sharavi thing.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Oh, gee. Mr. Cramer doesn't like me. Gosh. Gee whiz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, he's really pissed because you have wiped the floor with 
>>>>> him.
>>>>> But I expect he's mad about you.
>>>>
>>>> And yet after requesting my "real" email address, he's never even
>>>> bothered to try and find out if it works.
>>>
>>> Something you can put down to yourself, salzman.
>>>
>>> I have no interest in communicating with you via email following your 
>>> horseshit, lies and nastiness since the address was provided.
>>>
>>> Situation normal, when dealing with you and your type.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Priceless Cramer...priceless.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO.
>
> Thank you twatty. Mayhap the fat slag will finally get the picture.
>
>



lol.......

It's pretty obvious why you haven't e mailed Sara and it isn't the one you 
gave.

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From femail1583@gmail.com Mon Sep 15 12:17:42 EDT 2008
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"Tilly"  wrote in message 
news:gal9fn$59u$1@aioe.org...
> "B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message 
> news:wuudnebPFcKwtVPVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Tilly"  wrote in message 
>> news:gal93c$3s9$1@aioe.org...
>>> "B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message 
>>> news:fKKdneN_re0qZ1DVnZ2dnUVZ_rvinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:catamont-DF2953.07455514092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>> In article ,
>>>>> Gord McFee  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2008 8:57 AM, Sara Salzman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > In article , "B.H.
>>>>>> > Cramer"  wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>>>>> >> news:catamont-7FDD5C.05553409092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>>> >>> In article , "B.H.
>>>>>> >>> Cramer"  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>> news:catamont-9D1EDB.21572808092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>>> >>>>> In article , "127.0.0.1"
>>>>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:36:30 -0500 Sara Salzman
>>>>>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>> >>>>>>> "127.0.0.1"  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:36:55 +0000 (UTC) "I'll Always Be
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here"  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "127.0.0.1"  wrote in
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> news:ndgxk.1878$f43.534@newsfe02.iad:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:43:45 -0500 Sara Salzman
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From his own words, stupid.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He thinks it's okay to drive drunk. That is wrong
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and illegal. He thinks it's okay because he says
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the law is "stupid." That is just plain stupid.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've never SAID THAT IT'S OKAY to drink and drive
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fist.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What about 'your words' and your twisted sexual
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> proclivities that has been posted all over Usent?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't wanna talk about that do ya?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So you believe everyone else that those postings are
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> from her? YOu don't believe her denial?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> She doesn't 'deny anything' with regards to the; "Sara
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Fist Salzman" post.
>>>>>> >>>>>>> What a huge lie from such a tiny brain.
>>>>>> >>>>>> What makes you think I'm stupid? You may be a better
>>>>>> >>>>>> monopoly player -- but I'm a better chess player.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course I have denied it. Constantly and consistently.
>>>>>> >>>>>> Your denial of a post that 'you made' is trivial in the
>>>>>> >>>>>> grand scheme of things Sara. ;-)
>>>>>> >>>>> So you admit that I have denied it. Which makes you (wait for
>>>>>> >>>>> it) a liar.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't support individual sexual freedom?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Absolutely not! Shove the fags back in the closet and
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hang the pedophiles.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you think Sara has a right to judge me when she has
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the moral equivalent of the Marquis De Sade?
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Judge you? Oh, please. Your own words hang you, every
>>>>>> >>>>>>> single time.
>>>>>> >>>>>> Yet, I'm still here............
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Of curse[sic] you are. And we're all still laughing at you.
>>>>>> >>>> Freudian slip, salzman?
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> You never make mistakes, remember?
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>> Why would I "remember" something I never said?
>>>>>> >> You are forever implying you are perfect, salzman.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Nope. Never once. But don't let facts get in your way.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> The "I am an intelligent woman" shite becomes rather tiresome.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Since I haven't said it, it can only be tiresome to someone who has
>>>>>> > rather strange ideas of interpretation and implication.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Forever having to flog your own credentials speaks volumes of your
>>>>>> >> insecurity, you depraved piece of shit.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Really? When was the last time I "flogged my credentials," Mr.
>>>>>> > Cramer? You certainly seem rather touchy abut this, aren't you?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>> But I do notice that even you are too embarrassed to support
>>>>>> >>> Tommy's drivel.
>>>>>> >> Shut up, salzman. You are a disgrace to humanity, womanhood and
>>>>>> >> decency.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Oooh, touched a nerve, did I?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > And yet you STILL don't defend Tommy's idiocy, do you?
>>>>>> >> You are a class "A" piece of shit. Far worse than the other piece
>>>>>> >> of slime who infests this group - the sharavi thing.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Oh, gee. Mr. Cramer doesn't like me. Gosh. Gee whiz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, he's really pissed because you have wiped the floor with 
>>>>>> him.
>>>>>> But I expect he's mad about you.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet after requesting my "real" email address, he's never even
>>>>> bothered to try and find out if it works.
>>>>
>>>> Something you can put down to yourself, salzman.
>>>>
>>>> I have no interest in communicating with you via email following your 
>>>> horseshit, lies and nastiness since the address was provided.
>>>>
>>>> Situation normal, when dealing with you and your type.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Priceless Cramer...priceless.
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO.
>>
>> Thank you twatty. Mayhap the fat slag will finally get the picture.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> lol.......
>
> It's pretty obvious why you haven't e mailed Sara and it isn't the one you 
> gave.
>
> -- 
> femail1583@gmail.com
>



Correction:

It's pretty obvious why you haven't e mailed Sara and it isn't the reason 
you
 gave.


Pffffttttt( at the end of a very hard day)

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"B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Tilly"  wrote in message 
> news:gal9ja$5i9$1@aioe.org...
>> "Tilly"  wrote in message 
>> news:gal9fn$59u$1@aioe.org...
>>> "B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message 
>>> news:wuudnebPFcKwtVPVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Tilly"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:gal93c$3s9$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> "B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:fKKdneN_re0qZ1DVnZ2dnUVZ_rvinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:catamont-DF2953.07455514092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>> Gord McFee  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2008 8:57 AM, Sara Salzman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > In article , "B.H.
>>>>>>>> > Cramer"  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >> news:catamont-7FDD5C.05553409092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>>>>> >>> In article , 
>>>>>>>> >>> "B.H.
>>>>>>>> >>> Cramer"  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >>>> news:catamont-9D1EDB.21572808092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>>>>> >>>>> In article , "127.0.0.1"
>>>>>>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:36:30 -0500 Sara Salzman
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> "127.0.0.1"  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:36:55 +0000 (UTC) "I'll Always Be
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here"  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "127.0.0.1"  wrote in
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> news:ndgxk.1878$f43.534@newsfe02.iad:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:43:45 -0500 Sara Salzman
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From his own words, stupid.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He thinks it's okay to drive drunk. That is wrong
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and illegal. He thinks it's okay because he says
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the law is "stupid." That is just plain stupid.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've never SAID THAT IT'S OKAY to drink and drive
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fist.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What about 'your words' and your twisted sexual
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> proclivities that has been posted all over Usent?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't wanna talk about that do ya?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So you believe everyone else that those postings are
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> from her? YOu don't believe her denial?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> She doesn't 'deny anything' with regards to the; "Sara
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Fist Salzman" post.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> What a huge lie from such a tiny brain.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> What makes you think I'm stupid? You may be a better
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> monopoly player -- but I'm a better chess player.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course I have denied it. Constantly and consistently.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Your denial of a post that 'you made' is trivial in the
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> grand scheme of things Sara. ;-)
>>>>>>>> >>>>> So you admit that I have denied it. Which makes you (wait for
>>>>>>>> >>>>> it) a liar.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't support individual sexual freedom?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Absolutely not! Shove the fags back in the closet and
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hang the pedophiles.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you think Sara has a right to judge me when she has
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the moral equivalent of the Marquis De Sade?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Judge you? Oh, please. Your own words hang you, every
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> single time.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Yet, I'm still here............
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Of curse[sic] you are. And we're all still laughing at you.
>>>>>>>> >>>> Freudian slip, salzman?
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> You never make mistakes, remember?
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Why would I "remember" something I never said?
>>>>>>>> >> You are forever implying you are perfect, salzman.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Nope. Never once. But don't let facts get in your way.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> The "I am an intelligent woman" shite becomes rather tiresome.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Since I haven't said it, it can only be tiresome to someone who 
>>>>>>>> > has
>>>>>>>> > rather strange ideas of interpretation and implication.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> Forever having to flog your own credentials speaks volumes of 
>>>>>>>> >> your
>>>>>>>> >> insecurity, you depraved piece of shit.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Really? When was the last time I "flogged my credentials," Mr.
>>>>>>>> > Cramer? You certainly seem rather touchy abut this, aren't you?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >>> But I do notice that even you are too embarrassed to support
>>>>>>>> >>> Tommy's drivel.
>>>>>>>> >> Shut up, salzman. You are a disgrace to humanity, womanhood and
>>>>>>>> >> decency.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Oooh, touched a nerve, did I?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > And yet you STILL don't defend Tommy's idiocy, do you?
>>>>>>>> >> You are a class "A" piece of shit. Far worse than the other 
>>>>>>>> >> piece
>>>>>>>> >> of slime who infests this group - the sharavi thing.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Oh, gee. Mr. Cramer doesn't like me. Gosh. Gee whiz.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, he's really pissed because you have wiped the floor with 
>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>> But I expect he's mad about you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet after requesting my "real" email address, he's never even
>>>>>>> bothered to try and find out if it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something you can put down to yourself, salzman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no interest in communicating with you via email following your 
>>>>>> horseshit, lies and nastiness since the address was provided.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Situation normal, when dealing with you and your type.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Priceless Cramer...priceless.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFLMAO.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you twatty. Mayhap the fat slag will finally get the picture.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> lol.......
>>>
>>> It's pretty obvious why you haven't e mailed Sara and it isn't the one 
>>> you gave.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> femail1583@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Correction:
>>
>> It's pretty obvious why you haven't e mailed Sara and it isn't the reason 
>> you
>> gave.
>>
>>
>> Pffffttttt( at the end of a very hard day)
>
> Bedpan overload, huh?
>
>
>
>>
>> -- 
>> femail1583@gmail.com
>>
>



Yep, we enrolled nurses spend a lot of time dealing with market crises 
created by bank failures.

-- 
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"I'll Always Be Here"  wrote in message 
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> "B.H. Cramer"  wrote in
> news:4p6dnepXvpd0tFPVnZ2dnUVZ_sHinZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>>
>> "Tilly"  wrote in message
>> news:gal9fn$59u$1@aioe.org...
>>> "B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message
>>> news:wuudnebPFcKwtVPVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Tilly"  wrote in message
>>>> news:gal93c$3s9$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> "B.H. Cramer"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:fKKdneN_re0qZ1DVnZ2dnUVZ_rvinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:catamont-DF2953.07455514092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>> Gord McFee  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2008 8:57 AM, Sara Salzman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > In article ,
>>>>>>>> > "B.H. Cramer"  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >> news:catamont-7FDD5C.05553409092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>>>>> >>> In article ,
>>>>>>>> >>> "B.H. Cramer"  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >>>> news:catamont-9D1EDB.21572808092008@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>>>>> >>>>> In article , "127.0.0.1"
>>>>>>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:36:30 -0500 Sara Salzman
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> "127.0.0.1"  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:36:55 +0000 (UTC) "I'll Always Be
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here"  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "127.0.0.1"  wrote in
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> news:ndgxk.1878$f43.534@newsfe02.iad:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:43:45 -0500 Sara Salzman
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From his own words, stupid.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He thinks it's okay to drive drunk. That is wrong
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and illegal. He thinks it's okay because he says
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the law is "stupid." That is just plain stupid.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've never SAID THAT IT'S OKAY to drink and drive
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fist.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What about 'your words' and your twisted sexual
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> proclivities that has been posted all over Usent?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't wanna talk about that do ya?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So you believe everyone else that those postings are
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> from her? YOu don't believe her denial?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> She doesn't 'deny anything' with regards to the; "Sara
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Fist Salzman" post.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> What a huge lie from such a tiny brain.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> What makes you think I'm stupid? You may be a better
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> monopoly player -- but I'm a better chess player.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course I have denied it. Constantly and consistently.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Your denial of a post that 'you made' is trivial in the
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> grand scheme of things Sara. ;-)
>>>>>>>> >>>>> So you admit that I have denied it. Which makes you (wait
>>>>>>>> >>>>> for it) a liar.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't support individual sexual freedom?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Absolutely not! Shove the fags back in the closet and
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hang the pedophiles.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you think Sara has a right to judge me when she has
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the moral equivalent of the Marquis De Sade?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Judge you? Oh, please. Your own words hang you, every
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> single time.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Yet, I'm still here............
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Of curse[sic] you are. And we're all still laughing at you.
>>>>>>>> >>>> Freudian slip, salzman?
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> You never make mistakes, remember?
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Why would I "remember" something I never said?
>>>>>>>> >> You are forever implying you are perfect, salzman.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Nope. Never once. But don't let facts get in your way.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> The "I am an intelligent woman" shite becomes rather tiresome.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Since I haven't said it, it can only be tiresome to someone who
>>>>>>>> > has rather strange ideas of interpretation and implication.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> Forever having to flog your own credentials speaks volumes of
>>>>>>>> >> your insecurity, you depraved piece of shit.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Really? When was the last time I "flogged my credentials," Mr.
>>>>>>>> > Cramer? You certainly seem rather touchy abut this, aren't you?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >>> But I do notice that even you are too embarrassed to support
>>>>>>>> >>> Tommy's drivel.
>>>>>>>> >> Shut up, salzman. You are a disgrace to humanity, womanhood and
>>>>>>>> >> decency.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Oooh, touched a nerve, did I?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > And yet you STILL don't defend Tommy's idiocy, do you?
>>>>>>>> >> You are a class "A" piece of shit. Far worse than the other
>>>>>>>> >> piece of slime who infests this group - the sharavi thing.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Oh, gee. Mr. Cramer doesn't like me. Gosh. Gee whiz.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, he's really pissed because you have wiped the floor with
>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>> But I expect he's mad about you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet after requesting my "real" email address, he's never even
>>>>>>> bothered to try and find out if it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something you can put down to yourself, salzman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no interest in communicating with you via email following
>>>>>> your horseshit, lies and nastiness since the address was provided.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Situation normal, when dealing with you and your type.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Priceless Cramer...priceless.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFLMAO.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you twatty. Mayhap the fat slag will finally get the picture.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> lol.......
>>>
>>> It's pretty obvious why you haven't e mailed Sara and it isn't the one
>>> you gave.
>>
>> What reason might that be, twatty?  Surprise us.
>>
>>
>>
>
> You don't have the info you promised to send her. Couldn't be plainer or
> more obvious.



I think Cramer has been caught offguard.

He's  trying to get hold of his stockbroker!  lol




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"kangarooistan"  wrote in message 
news:ee7d9639-e4bc-4a94-b03d-ae5375951778@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 14, 11:50 pm, "."  wrote:
> The makers of a new movie offering a child's perspective on the
> Holohoax are encouraging parents to let their children see it.
>
> The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas has been rated 12A by the British Board
> of Film Classification for its "scenes of holocaust threat and
> horror".
>
> "I think 12A is an ideal certificate," says its director Jew Mark
> Herman. "You're never too young to learn about the idiocy of racism
> and the folly of prejudice." [Haven't Jews built separate roads for
> Muslims and Jews in Israel?]
>
> According to Herman, the drama offers young children "an easy first
> step towards learning about that horrible time in our history". It's
> not a children's film, but it certainly could and should be watched by
> children," agrees the British actor David Thewlis, who plays Bruno's
> father.
>
> Distressing
>
> The Harry Potter star says he will "very forcibly" encourage his three-
> year-old daughter, Gracie, to see the film when she is old enough.
> This is despite an emotive climax that, while far from graphic, could
> well prove distressing to those of an impressionable age.
>
> Thewlis concedes that the film ends on a sombre note, but says it is
> "necessary in order to understand the gravity of the story."
>
> Herman admits he expected the downbeat conclusion to become a point of
> contention when [Jewish] company Disney subsidiary Miramax agreed to
> finance the production.
>
> "I told them there was no point making the film unless we stayed with
> the ending," he says. To his surprise, however, the anticipated
> conflict did not arise. "We always dreaded it coming but it never
> happened," he reveals.

I listen to the BBC world service on radio and its sickening to hear
their propaganda and support of israeli war crimes , it will be good
to see them hang as war criminals like sreicher in WW2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher

I only listen to reverse most of what they say to find out what they
are really trying to hide and what they choose to report its then easy
to work out the truth

anybody who has access to the internet knows the jews killed each
other to drive all european jews to palestine as they planned to do
in  1914 but failed so has to start WW2 to achieve their plans made in
1892 in the USA , see the book " Day of Vengeance " the zionists
published in english ad German in 1897

Thank GOD western taxpayers have now been bled to death and will soon
switch off the football and inform themselves who the real terrorists
are at long last

These real terrorists?
The Islamic terrorists convicted today in Melbourne Australia!

Abdul Benbrika guilty of leading terrorist group



A Supreme Court jury has found Melbourne man Abdul Nacer Benbrika guilty of 
leading a terrorist organisation in Australia's biggest-ever terrorism 
trial.

Benbrika, 48, of Dallas, was found guilty of intentionally directing the 
activities of a terrorist organisation and of being a member of a terrorist 
organisation.

Five of Benbrika's followers have been found guilty of intentionally being 
members of a terrorist group. Aimen Joud,  Fadl Sayadi, Ezzit Raad, Ahmed 
Raad, Abdullah Merhi were all convicted.....contd

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/terror-trial-cleric-guilty/2008/09/15/1221330711846.html

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ZYD Money Laundering Ring Busted by US Govt.!  
Will McVay & Mazal , and their cohorts Be Next?

Someone should  now claim the IRS Reward for turning in the swindlers
of income taxes in USA.

From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

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Subject: REAL HOLOCAUST of PALESTINIANS Is BY ZYDS!
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The REAL HOLOCAUST of PALESTINIANS that is
being COMMITTED by ZIONIST-JEWS in ISRAEL,
is threatening the extremely lucrative Shoah השואה,
Holo-Cash business, and there's no business like
the Shoah השואה business!
What happened to LEST WE FORGET?

http://jewsdisgustedbyzionism.blogspot.com/2008/09/real-holocaust-of-palestinians.html

http://sharavidoyouenjoybeingacannibal.blogspot.com/2008/09/real-holocaust-of-palestinians.html

http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/2008/09/real-holocaust-of-palestinians.html

THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY: REFLECTIONS ON
THE EXPLOITATION OF JEWISH SUFFERING
- by Norman G. Finkelstein
 ISBN: 978-1-85984-488-5

"I want the Germans to know where the money
they gave Israel went," he said angrily.
"I want the Germans to know that Israel took
the money we should have received.
I want them to answer one question:
Where did our money go?"

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=3&ar=98

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/lest-we-forget/

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionists-are-the-same-as-nazis/

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/aliya/

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DRESDEN, a REAL HOLOCAUST = Ein Wirkliche HOLOKAUST

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:58:40 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
phantomK777@webtv.net (Whitey Loughmiller) wrote:

Dresden
Kevin Alfred Strom

The night of February 13th, and February 14th, Valentine's Day, mark an
ominous anniversary in the history of Western Civilization. For
beginning on the night of February 13th, 1945, occurred the destruction
of Dresden. 

On the eve of Valentine's Day, 1945, World War II in Europe was nearly
over. For all practical purposes Germany was already defeated. Italy,
and Germany's other European allies, had fallen by the wayside. The Red
Army was rushing to occupy vast areas of what had been Germany in the
East, while the allies of the Soviets, the British and Americans, were
bombing what was left of Germany's defenses and food and transportation
infrastructure into nonexistence. 

And what was Dresden? Most of you have probably heard of Dresden China,
and that delicately executed and meticulously detailed porcelain is
really a perfect symbol for that city. 

For centuries Dresden had been a center of art and culture, and refined
leisure and recreation. She was a city of art museums and theatres,
circuses and sports stadia, a town of ancient half-timbered buildings
looking for all the world like those of medieval England, with venerable
churches and centuries-old cathedrals gracing her skyline. She was a
city of artists and craftsmen, of actors and dancers, of tourists and
the merchants and hotels that served them. 
Above all, what Dresden was, was defined during the war by what she was
not. She had no significant military or industrial installations.
Because of this, Dresden had become, above all other things that she
was, a city of children, of women, of refugees, and of the injured and
maimed who were recovering from their wounds in her many hospitals. 

These women and children, these wounded soldiers, these infirm and
elderly people, these refugees fleeing from the brutal onslaught of the
Communist armies to the East, had come to Dresden because it was
commonly believed at the time that Dresden would not be attacked. Its
lack of strategic or military or industrial significance, and the
well-known presence of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian
refugees and even Allied prisoners of war, seemed to guarantee safety to
the city. Surely, it was thought, not even a the most powerful and
determined enemy would be so depraved and sadistic, and so wasteful of
that enemy's own resources, to attack such a city. But the people of
Dresden, who were happily attending the cinema or eating dinner at home
or watching the show-horses in the circus on that fateful night were
wrong, wrong, wrong. And their leaders were also wrong, for the city was
virtually open and undefended and only minimal civil defense
preparations had been made. 

Dresden's population had almost doubled in the months before the attack,
mainly as a result of the influx of refugees from the Eastern Front,
most of them women and young children. 

According to British historian David Irving, the briefings given to the
British bomber squadrons before the attack on Dresden were curiously
different. In one, the soldiers were told that their target was the
railway center of Dresden. In another, they were told that the target
was a poison-gas factory. In yet another, they were told that the target
was a marshalling-grounds for troops in the city. Another was told that
the target was a major arsenal. These were all lies. 
The only marshalling-grounds for what few troops were in the area were
located well outside the city. The arsenal had burned down in 1916.
There were factories for toothpaste and baby-powder in Dresden, but none
for poison gas. There were, in fact, no fewer than eighteen railway
stations in Dresden, but only one was hit by the bombing, and that was
barely touched and in fact was operating again just three days later. 

According to copious documentation unearthed by David Irving from the
archives of the American and British governments, the point of the
attack was in fact to inflict the maximum loss of life on the civilian
population and particularly to kill as many refugees as possible who
were fleeing from the Red Army. In achieving these goals it was highly
successful. It was thus planned and executed by those at the very
highest levels of the British and American governments, who to attain
their purposes even lied to their own soldiers and citizens, who to this
day have never been told the full story by their leaders. 
How was this devastating effect accomplished? 
At 10:10 PM on February 13th, the first wave of the attack, consisting
of the British Number 5 Bomber Group, began. The attacking force
consisted of about 2,000 bombers with additional support craft, which
dropped over 3,000 high explosive and 650,000 incendiary bombs (more
commonly known as firebombs) on the center of the city. Incendiary bombs
are not known for their efficiency per pound in destroying heavy
equipment such as military hardware or railroad tracks, but are
extremely effective in producing maximum loss of human life. The loads
carried by the bombers were over 75 per cent incendiaries. In fact, the
goal of the first wave of the attack was, according to British air
commander Sir Arthur Bomber Harris, to set the city well on fire. That
he did. 

The lack of any effective anti-aircraft defenses allowed the bombers to
drop to very low altitudes and thus a relatively high degree of
precision and visual identification of targets was achieved. Despite the
fact that they could clearly see that the marked target area contained
hospitals and sports stadia and residential areas of center city
Dresden, the bombers nevertheless obeyed orders and rained down a fiery
death upon the unlucky inhabitants of that city on a scale which had
never before been seen on planet Earth. 

Hundreds of thousands of innocents were literally consumed by fire, an
actual holocaust by the true definition of the word: complete
consumption by fire. 
  
 
 Dresden after its holocaust
The incendiaries started thousands of fires and, aided by a stiff wind
and the early-on destruction of the telephone exchanges that might have
summoned firefighters from nearby towns, these fires soon coalesced into
one unimaginably huge firestorm. Now such firestorms are not natural
phenomena, and are seldom created by man, so few people have any idea of
their nature. Basically, what happened was this: The intense heat caused
by the huge column of smoke and flame, miles high and thousands of acres
in area, created a terrific updraft of air in the center of the column. 
This created a very low pressure at the base of the column, and
surrounding fresh air rushed inward at speeds estimated to be thirty
times that of an ordinary tornado. An ordinary tornado wind-force is a
result of temperature differences of perhaps 20 to 30 degrees
centigrade. In this firestorm the temperature differences were on the
order of 600 to 1,000 degrees centigrade. This inward-rushing air
further fed the flames, creating a literal tornado of fire, with winds
in the surrounding area of many hundreds of miles per hour -- sweeping
men, women, children, animals, vehicles and uprooted trees pell-mell
into the glowing inferno. 

But this was only the first stage of the plan. 
Exactly on schedule, three hours after the first attack, a second
massive armada of British bombers arrived, again loaded with high
explosive and massive quantities of incendiary bombs. The residents of
Dresden, their power systems destroyed by the first raid, had no warning
of the second. Again the British bombers attacked the center city of
Dresden, this time dividing their targets  -- one half of the bombs
were to be dropped into the center of the conflagration, to keep it
going, the other half around the edges of the firestorm. No pretense
whatever was made of selecting military targets. The timing of the
second armada was such as to ensure that a large quantity of the
surviving civilians would have emerged from their shelters by that time,
which was the case, and also in hopes that rescue and firefighting crews
would have arrived from surrounding cities, which also proved to be
true. The firefighters and medics thus incinerated hadn't needed the
telephone exchange to know that they were needed -- the firestorm was
visible from a distance of 200 miles. 

It is reported that body parts, pieces of clothing, tree branches, huge
quantities of ashes, and miscellaneous debris from the firestorm fell
for days on the surrounding countryside as far away as eighteen miles.
After the attack finally subsided, rescue workers found nothing but
liquefied remains of the inhabitants of some shelters, where even the
metal kitchen utensils had melted from the intense heat. 

The next day, Ash Wednesday and Valentine's Day, 1945, medical and other
emergency personnel from all over central Germany had converged on
Dresden. Little did they suspect that yet a third wave of bombers was on
its way, this time American. This attack had been carefully coordinated
with the previous raids. Four hundred fifty Flying Fortresses and a
support contingent of fighters arrived to finish the job at noon. I
quote from David Irving's The Destruction of Dresden: 

"Just a few hours before Dresden had been a fairy-tale city of spires
and cobbled streets .... now total war had put an end to all that.
..The ferocity of the US raid of 14th February had finally brought the
people to their knees... but it was not the bombs which finally
demoralised the people ... it was the Mustang fighters, which suddenly
appeared low over the city, firing on everything that moved .... one
section of the Mustangs concentrated on the river banks, where masses of
bombed-out people had gathered. ... British prisoners who had been
released from their burning camps were among the first to suffer the
discomfort of machine-gunning attacks .... wherever columns of tramping
people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the
fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire." [Image: Dresden
skyline after Allied saturation bombing.] 

Ladies and gentlemen, on this program I can only give you a bare glimpse
of the inhuman horror of the holocaust of Dresden. In Dresden, no fewer
than 135,000 innocent victims died, with some estimates as high as
300,000. More died in Dresden than died in the well-known attacks on
Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 

More destruction befell Dresden in one day than was inflicted on the
whole of Britain during the entire war. And yet you haven't been told. 

I urge every one of you to read The Destruction of Dresden by David
Irving. I assure you, after reading Irving's book, you will never take
seriously the Establishment's version of what happened in that war
again. 

What you ought to take seriously, though, is the fact that the same
clique that controlled the traitorous Roosevelt and Churchill
governments, whose hatred of our race and civilization and whose
alliance with Communism were the real causes of the holocaust of
Dresden, still controls our government and our media today. It is they
who are pushing for a disarmed, racially mixed America. It is they who
promote the teaching of sodomy to our young children. It is they who are
destroying our industrial infrastructure in the name of a global
economy. It is they who created the drug subculture and then also the
police state agencies which pretend to fight it. 

The hour is very late for America and indeed for all of Western
civilization. But if patriots will heed our call, then there is no
reason for despair. For the enemies of our nation may have power, but
their power is based on lies. Won't you help us cut through the chain of
lies that holds our people in mental slavery? 
Every year, families should commemorate the anniversary of the holocaust
of Dresden on the eve of 13th February. 

Free Speech --  David Irving has generously made his Destruction of
Dresden available as a free download, in PDF format, at his Focal Point
Press website.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate , tireless
minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men. " --
Samuel Adams 

" George W. Bush is so pro-Mexico that if you hit him with a stick
prizes would fall out of him. " 

--Argus Hamilton  

"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated. 

If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved. 

If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed." 

-- Polydoros

"Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice. 
It is not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved . " 

-- William Jennings Bryan
   
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KASTNER Case=ZYD Was Willing  ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like 
KASTNER,  WIESENTHAL and RUMKOWSKI!!
Prominent  ZHIDS willingly COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been 
a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

No wonder people in Europe dislike the Christkiller ZYDS!
Immer die verfluechte Juden.

>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>Judge Halevi continues:

>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.

>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.

>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher'.

>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.

>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements." (ibid)

>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.

>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.

>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.

>But the story does not end there.

>The Reaction
>-------------
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.

>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:

>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)

>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).

>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:

>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense." (23 June 1955)

>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.

>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:

>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose." (23 June 1955)

>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.

>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma'ariv*:

>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!

>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)

>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)

>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.

>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.

>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.

>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>rehabilitated'.

>The Majority Judgement
>-------------------------
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.

>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.

>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.

>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:

>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).

>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view...

>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....

>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>train for Palestine.

>The Minority Judgement
>--------------------------
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others....

>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'

>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith...

>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...

>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.

>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.

>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

>Conclusion
>-----------
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.

>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.

>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.

>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.

>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.

>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.

>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).

>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.

>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.

>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
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>Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
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Subject: ONCE AGAIN ZYD/Ivrai  PLOTS A RUSSIAN REVOLUTION-Like 1917?

RUSSIA BEWARE, BORIS AND MOISHE ARE GOING FOR THE THROAT,again!

'I am plotting a new Russian revolution'

London exile ZYD Berezovsky says force necessary to bring down President
Putin

Ian Cobain and Matthew Taylor and Luke Harding in Moscow
Friday April 13, 2007
The Guardian

The Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky has told the Guardian he is
plotting the violent overthrow of President Putin from his base in
Britain after forging close contacts with members of Russia's ruling
elite.

In comments which appear calculated to enrage the Kremlin, and which
will further inflame relations between London and Moscow, the
multimillionaire claimed he was already bankrolling people close to
the president who are conspiring to mount a palace coup.

"We need to use force to change this regime," he said. "It isn't
possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be
no change without force, pressure." Asked if he was effectively
fomenting a revolution, he said: "You are absolutely correct."

Although Mr Berezovsky, with an estimated fortune of £850m, may have
the means to finance such a plot, and although he enjoyed enormous
political influence in Russia before being forced into exile, he said
he could not provide details to back up his claims because the
information was too sensitive.

Last night the Kremlin denounced Mr Berezovsky's comments as a
criminal offence which it believed should undermine his refugee status
in the UK.

Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin's chief spokesman, said: "In accordance
with our legislation [his remarks are] being treated as a crime. It
will cause some questions from the British authorities to Mr
Berezovsky. We want to believe that official London will never grant
asylum to someone who wants to use force to change the regime in
Russia."

It will not be the first time the British government has faced
accusations from the Kremlin that it is providing a safe haven for Mr
Berezovsky. When he told a Moscow radio station last year that he
wanted to see Mr Putin overthrown by force, Jack Straw, then foreign
secretary, told the Commons that "advocating the violent overthrow of
a sovereign state is unacceptable" and warned the tycoon he could be
stripped of his refugee status.

Russian authorities subsequently sent an extradition request to
London. That failed, however, when a district judge ruled Mr
Berezovsky could not be extradited as long as he has asylum status.

In an interview with the Guardian, however, Mr Berezovsky goes much
further than before, claiming to be in close contact with members of
Russia's political elite who, he says, share his view that Mr Putin is
damaging Russia by rolling back democratic reforms, smothering
opposition, centralising power and flouting the country's
constitution.

"There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections," he
says. "If one part of the political elite disagrees with another part
of the political elite - that is the only way in Russia to change the
regime. I try to move that."

While declining to describe these contacts - and alleging that they
would be murdered if they were identified - he maintained that he was
offering his "experience and ideology" to members of the country's
political elite, as well as "my understanding of how it could be
done". He added: "There are also practical steps which I am doing now,
and mostly it is financial."

Mr Berezovsky said he was unconcerned by any threat to strip him of
his refugee status. "Straw wasn't in a position to take that decision.
A judge in court said it wasn't in the jurisdiction of Straw."

He added that there was even less chance of such a decision being
taken following the polonium-210 poisoning last November of his former
employee, Alexander Litvinenko. "Today the reality is different
because of the Litvinenko case."

Mr Berezovsky, 61, a former mathematician, turned to business during
the Yeltsin years and made his fortune by capturing state assets at
knockdown prices during Russia's rush towards privatisation.

Although he played a key role in ensuring Mr Putin's victory in the
2000 presidential elections, the two men fell out as the newly elected
leader successfully wrested control of Russia back from the so-called
oligarchy, the small group of tycoons who had come to dominate the
country's economy.

A few months after the election Mr Berezovsky fled Russia, and applied
successfully for asylum in the UK after Mr Litvinenko, an officer with
the KGB's successor, the FSB, came forward to say he had been ordered
to murder the tycoon.

Mr Berezovsky changed his name to Platon Elenin, Platon being the name
of a character in a Russian film based loosely upon his life. He was
subsequently given a British passport in this name.

As well as claiming to be financing and encouraging coup plotters in
Moscow, Mr Berezovsky said he had dedicated much of the last six years
to "trying to destroy the positive image of Putin" that many in the
west held, portraying him whenever possible as a dangerously anti-
democratic figure. He said he had also opposed the Russian president
through Kommersant, the influential Russian newspaper which he
controlled until last year.

Last month Mr Berezovsky was questioned by two detectives from the
Russian prosecutor general's office who were in London to investigate
the death of Mr Litvinenko. He has denied claims that he refused to
answer many of their questions.

Last night the Kremlin said Russian authorities might want to question
him again in the light of his interview with the Guardian. "I now
believe our prosecutor general's office has got lots of questions for
Mr Berezovsky," said Mr Peskov. He added: "His words are very
interesting. This is a very sensitive issue."

The Foreign Office said it had nothing to add to Mr Straw's comments
of last year.


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Zionism & The Third Reich = ZYD KOLABORACI!
Never forget KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI & WIESENTHAL 
as well as  so many more!

http://www.rense.com/general34/ZAND.HTM

Zionism And The Third Reich
By Mark Weber
Institute for Historical Review
2-8-3

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German
port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel
Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the
ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member.
Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic
combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one
vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging
collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.
 
Common Aims
 
Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
non-Jewish society? During the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National
Socialists shared similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue.
They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities,
and that Jews did not belong in Germany. Jews living in the Reich were
therefore to be regarded not as "Germans of the Jewish faith," but rather
as members of a separate national community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism)
also implied an obligation by Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine,
the "Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any
other "foreign" country.
 
Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that
anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes.
The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in
a separate state of their own. "The Jewish question exists wherever Jews
live in noticeable numbers," he wrote in his most influential work, The
Jewish State. "Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving
Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex
phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear."
The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. "It is a
national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
political issue ..." Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews
constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a
Volk.2 Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered the world a welcome "final solution of
the Jewish question."3
 
Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by
far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed
memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and
formally offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question."
The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental
national differences: 4
 
Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which
consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of
an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition.
Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist
trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear ...
 
Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is
now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national
character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense
of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its
existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era
must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective
responsibility ...
 
We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can,
through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a
decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be
dealt with by most European peoples ...
 
Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere
relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities.
Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we,
too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the
Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having
been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an
interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and
internal sympathy ...
 
For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of
even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with
the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem
whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially
the German people ... Boycott propaganda -- such as is currently being
carried on against Germany in many ways -- is in essence un-Zionist,
because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build ...
 
We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue
to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages
result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples.
The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish
problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this
purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether
pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a
concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all
peoples are interested."5 A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later
settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish
Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that the National
Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the Jews." He
explained: "No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we
desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
 
Active Collaboration
 
On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood,
National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group
believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler
government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine
>from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive
collaboration.
 
Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews, probably a
majority, continued to regard themselves, often with considerable pride, as
Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about pulling up roots to begin a new
life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews turned
to Zionism during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement
flourished in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist
Federation's bi-weekly Jüdische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist
books were published. "Zionist work was in full swing" in Germany during
those years, the Encyclopaedia Judaica notes. A Zionist convention held in
Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its composition the vigorous party life of
German Zionists."7
 
The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased
Jewish self-awareness. Jewish schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish
cultural organizations -- in short, everything that would encourage this
new consciousness and self-awareness - should be promoted, the paper
recommended.8
 
SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt
Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist
development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein
wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin
daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading "A Nazi
Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great admiration for the
pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist
self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He
praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding
article, "pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of
the world: the Jewish question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a
Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the
joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS
security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more
effectively. 9
 
The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for
Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be too far
off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been
lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with
official goodwill, go with them."10 Four months later, a similar article
appeared in the SS paper: 11
 
The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on
religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the
racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in
complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the
so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around
the world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the
future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
 
A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service from
Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly kosher
food on its ships, under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12 With
official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate" Germany's Jews.
As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his 1985 survey, The Third
Reich and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
Palestine and generally to educate German Jews about Palestine. There was
considerable pressure to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying
themselves as Germans and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in
them." 13
 
In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist Federation of
Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation: "The Gestapo did
everything in those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine.
We often received their help when we required anything from other
authorities regarding preparations for emigration." 14
 
At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and sexual
relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the Jews an
alien minority nationality. A few days later the Zionist Jüdische Rundschau
editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
 
Germany ... is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it
declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the
Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to
establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new
laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own
national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own
theatre, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own
future in all aspects of national life ...
 
Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for itself,
and is offering state protection for this separate life of the Jewish
minority: Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be
encouraged and a contribution will be made to the establishment of more
tolerable relations between the two nations. Georg Kareski, the head of
both the "Revisionist" Zionist State Organization and the Jewish Cultural
League, and former head of the Berlin Jewish Community, declared in an
interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end of 1935: 16
 
For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural affairs
of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for living
together without conflict... I have long supported such a separation,
provided it is founded on respect for the alien nationality. The Nuremberg
Laws ... seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform entirely
with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect... This
interruption of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities,
which had been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a
Jewish point of view, entirely welcome.
 
Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S. Wise,
president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress,
told a New York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the
Jewish faith, I am a Jew... Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17 The Interior Ministry's Jewish
affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard Lösener, expressed support for Zionism in
an article that appeared in a November 1935 issue of the official
Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
 
If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them were
settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely resolved
today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of opposition to the
ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the Zionists,
because they realize at once that these laws represent the only correct
solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation must have its own
state as the outward expression of its particular nationhood.
 
In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany
where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag,
Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white
Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel
was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
 
Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah
official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and
for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the
Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to
plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even
included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in
clashes with Palestinian Arabs. 21 In the aftermath of the November
1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly
helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its
work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. 22
 
Official Reservations
 
German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials
were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities
in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry
remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long
as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to
resettle in the Zionist "promised land," a sovereign Jewish state in
Palestine would not really "solve" the international Jewish question.
Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this
dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore
limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
 
A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June
1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not be able to
absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional
power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served
as a base for international Communism.24 Reflecting something of a shift in
official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937
for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply
increasing. 25
 
A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite
of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would nevertheless be a
mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure
in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German
agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation
of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the
nations of the world."26 "The proclamation of a Jewish state or a
Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an internal memorandum by the
Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would create for Germany a new enemy,
one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East."
Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In January
1939, Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise
warned in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it "would bring an international
increase in power to world Jewry." 28
 
Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938 and, in
spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and misgivings
that his policies might contribute to the formation of a Jewish state,
decided to support Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The
prospect of ridding Germany of its Jews, he concluded, outweighed the
possible dangers. 29
 
Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic restrictions on
Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and 1939. In response, the
SS security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several convoys of
ships succeeded in reaching Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish
migration, both legal and illegal, from Germany (including Austria) to
Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and 1939. Another 10,000 Jews were
scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the outbreak of war in September
brought the effort to an end. All the same, German authorities continued to
promote indirect Jewish emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized
Zionist "kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to
operate in Hitler's Germany. 31
 
The Transfer Agreement
 
The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the
Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to
migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
Haavara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933 following
talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of
the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization.
32
 
Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine deposited
money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to purchase
German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps, fertilizer, and
so forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
Jewish-owned Haavara company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to
the Jewish emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount
corresponding to his deposit in Germany. German goods poured into Palestine
through the Haavara, which was supplemented a short time later with a
barter agreement by which Palestine oranges were exchanged for German
timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and other goods. The Agreement
thus served the Zionist aim of bringing Jewish settlers and development
capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the German goal of
freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
 
Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated the
merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine the
international Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist
officials reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the
Haavara arrangement, stressed that the Agreement was not economically
advantageous to Germany. Arthur Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration
specialist who had helped negotiate the pact, pointed out that "the
Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the boycott movement, since no
new currency will flow into Germany as a result of the agreement..." 33 The
1935 Zionist Congress, meeting in Switzerland, overwhelmingly endorsed the
pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the Zionist "shadow government" in
Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara, which remained in
effect until the Second World War forced its abandonment.
 
Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul General in
Jerusalem, Hans Döhle, for example, sharply criticized the Agreement on
several occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the
foreign exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
would bring if sold elsewhere. The Haavara monopoly sale of German goods to
Palestine through a Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and
Arabs there. Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of
German markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
resented the arrangement.34 A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal
bulletin referred to the "foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from
the Haavara. 35
 
A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry reviewed
the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that the Haavara
arrangement has contributed most significantly to the very rapid
development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided not only the
largest source of money (from Germany!), but also the most intelligent
group of immigrants, a nd finally it brought to the country the machines
and industrial products essential for development." The main advantage of
the pact, the memo reported, was the emigration of large numbers of Jews to
Palestine, the most desirable target country as far as Germany was
concerned. But the paper also noted the important drawbacks pointed out by
Consul Döhle and others. The Interior Minister, it went on, had concluded
that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the advantages and
that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
 
Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed the
policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and each time
decided to maintain the Haavara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
 
The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer company,
the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria, through which
Jews in foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine.
Almost $900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews
in Palestine.38 Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish
emigration concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the
Ha'avara. In 1937 Poland authorized the Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange")
transfer company. By late summer 1939, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and
Italy had signed similar arrangements. The outbreak of war in September
1939, however, prevented large-scale implementation of these agreements. 39
 


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Zionism & Third Reich - Part 2/2
Immer die verfluechte Juden/ZYDS/Kristmordern!

Achievements of Haavara
 
Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about ten
percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews made up
about 15 percent of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara
emigrants transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to
Palestine. As Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these
people, especially in the late 1930s, were allowed to transfer actual
replicas of their homes and factories -- indeed rough replicas of their
very existence."40
 
The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the Ha'avara
between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million pounds or 139.57
million German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This
amount included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
 
Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have flowed
into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements and special
international banking transactions. The German funds had a major impact on
a country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed out.
Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile firm. The
influx of Ha'avara goods and capital, concluded Black, "produced an
economic explosion in Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in
the creation of the State of Israel."42
 
The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli state. A
January 1939 German Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some
misgiving, that "the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through
the Ha'avara agreement] contributed to no small extent to the building of a
Jewish state in Palestine."43
 
Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this view in
a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972: "The economic
activity made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara
transfers to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for
the country's development. Many new industries and commercial enterprises
were established in Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are
enormously important even today in the economy of the State of Israel owe
their existence to the Haavara."44
 
Dr. Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the 1930s,
later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
immigrants "decisively contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and
educational development of Palestine's Jewish community.45
 
The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of cooperation
between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism. Through this pact,
Hitler's Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to
support Jewish development in Palestine.
 
Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
 
In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization submitted a
formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a military-political
alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made by the radical
underground "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi
or Stern Gang. Its leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the
radical nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi)
over the group's attitude toward Britain, which had effectively banned
further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern regarded Britain as the main
enemy of Zionism.
 
This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish question in
Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in the war on the
side of Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
 
In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe requires
as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question by evacuation.
("Jew-f ree Europe")
 
The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state in its
historical boundaries.
 
The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the Israel
Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun
Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this way and thus completely
liberate the Jewish people forever.
 
The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany and
the Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
 
1. Common interests can exist between a European New Order based on the
German concept and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as
embodied by the NMO.
 
2. Cooperation is possible between the New Germany and a renewed, folk
ish-national Jewry [Hebr_ertum].
 
3. The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and
totalitarian basis, and bound by treaty with the German Reich, would be in
the interest of maintaining and strengthening the future German position of
power in the Near East.
 
On the basis of these considerations, and upon the condition that the German
Reich government recognize the national aspirations of the Israel Freedom
Movement mentioned above, the NMO in Palestine offers to actively take part
in the war on the side of Germany.
 
This offer by the NMO could include military, political and informational
activity within Palestine and, after certain organizational measures,
outside as well. Along with this the Jewish men of Europe would be
militarily trained and organized in military units under the leadership and
command of the NMO. They would take part in combat operations for the
purpose of conquering Palestine, should such a front by formed.
 
The indirect participation of the Israel Freedom Movement in the New Order
of Europe, already in the preparatory stage, combined with a
positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem on the basis of
the national aspirations of the Jewish people mentioned above, would
greatly strengthen the moral foundation of the New Order in the eyes of all
humanity.
 
The cooperation of the Israel Freedom Movement would also be consistent with
a recent speech by the German Reich Chancellor, in which Hitler stressed
that he would utilize any combination and coalition in order to isolate and
defeat England.
 
There is no record of any German response. Acceptance was very unlikely
anyway because by this time German policy was decisively pro-Arab.47
Remarkably, Stern's group sought to conclude a pact with the Third Reich at
a time when stories that Hitler was bent on exterminating Jews were already
in wide circulation. Stern apparently either did not believe the stories or
he was willing to collaborate with the mortal enemy of his people to help
bring about a Jewish state. 48
 
An important Lehi member at the time the group made this offer was Yitzhak
Shamir, who later served as Israel's Foreign Minister and then, during much
of the 1980s and until June 1992, as Prime Minister. As Lehi operations
chief following Stern's death in 1942, Shamir organized numerous acts of
terror, including the November 1944 assassination of British Middle East
Minister Lord Moyne and the September 1948 slaying of Swedish United
Nations mediator Count Bernadotte. Years later, when Shamir was asked about
the 1941 offer, he confirmed that he was aware of his organization's
proposed alliance with wartime Germany. 49
 
Conclusion
 
In spite of the basic hostility between the Hitler regime and international
Jewry, for several years Jewish Zionist and German National Socialist
interests coincided. In collaborating with the Zionists for a mutually
desirable and humane solution to a complex problem, the Third Reich was
willing to make foreign exchange sacrifices, impair relations with Britain
and anger the Arabs. Indeed, during the 1930s no nation did more to
substantively further Jewish-Zionist goals than Hitler's Germany.
 
Notes
 
1.W. Martini, "Hebr_isch unterm Hakenkreuz," Die Welt (Hamburg), Jan. 10,
1975. Cited in: Klaus Polken, "The Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi
Germany, 1933-1941," Journal of Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, p.
65. 2.Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen: Die "Reichskristallnacht"
(Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), p. 212. See also: Th. Herzl, The Jewish State
(New York: Herzl Press, 1970), pp. 33, 35, 36, and, Edwin Black, The
Transfer Agreement (New York: Macmillan, 1984), p. 73. 3.Th. Herzl, "Der
Kongress," Welt, June 4, 1897. Reprinted in: Theodor Herzls zionistische
Schriften (Leon Kellner, ed.), erster Teil, Berlin: Jüdischer Verlag, 1920,
p. 190 (and p. 139). 4.Memo of June 21, 1933, in: L. Dawidowicz, A
Holocaust Reader (New York: Behrman, 1976), pp. 150-155, and (in part) in:
Francis R. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin:
Univ. of Texas, 1985), p. 42.; On Zionism in Germany before Hitler's
assumption of power, see: Donald L. Niewyk, The Jews in Weimar Germany
(Baton Rouge: 1980), pp. 94-95, 126-131, 140-143.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich
(Austin: 1985), pp. 1-15. 5.Jüdische Rundschau (Berlin), June 13, 1933.
Quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (New York:
Ballantine, pb., 1971, 1984), pp. 376-377. 6.Heinz Höhne, The Order of the
Death's Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 376. 7."Berlin," Encyclopaedia
Judaica (New York and Jerusalem: 1971), Vol. 5, p. 648. For a look at one
aspect of this "vigorous life," see: J.-C. Horak, "Zionist Film Propaganda
in Nazi Germany," Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television, Vol. 4,
No. 1, 1984, pp. 49-58. 8.Francis R. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
Palestine Question (1985), pp. 54-55.; Karl A. Schleunes, The Twisted Road
to Auschwitz (Urbana: Univ. of Illinois, 1970, 1990), pp. 178-181. 9.Jacob
Boas, "A Nazi Travels to Palestine," History Today (London), January 1980,
pp. 33-38. 10.Facsimile reprint of front page of Das Schwarze Korps, May
15, 1935, in: Janusz Piekalkiewicz, Israels Langer Arm (Frankfurt: Goverts,
1975), pp. 66-67. Also quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death's
Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 377. See also: Erich Kern, ed.,
Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: FZ-Verlag, 1988), p. 184. 11.Das Schwarze
Korps, Sept. 26, 1935. Quoted in: F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
Palestine Question (1985), pp. 56-57. 12.Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age
of the Dictators (1983), p. 83. 13.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
Palestine Question (1985), p. 60. See also: F. Nicosia, "The Yishuv and the
Holocaust," The Journal of Modern History (Chicago), Vol. 64, No. 3, Sept.
1992, pp. 533-540. 14.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine
Question (1985), p. 57. 15.Jüdische Rundschau, Sept. 17, 1935. Quoted in:
Yitzhak Arad, with Y. Gutman and A. Margaliot, eds., Documents on the
Holocaust (Jerusalem: Yad Vashem, 1981), pp. 82-83. 16.Der Angriff, Dec.
23, 1935, in: E. Kern, ed., Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: 1988), p.
148.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 56.; L. Brenner, Zionism in the
Age of the Dictators (1983), p. 138.; A. Margaliot, "The Reaction...," Yad
Vashem Studies (Jerusalem), vol. 12, 1977, pp. 90-91.; On Kareski's
remarkable career, see: H. Levine, "A Jewish Collaborator in Nazi Germany,"
Central European History (Atlanta), Sept. 1975, pp. 251-281. 17."Dr. Wise
Urges Jews to Declare Selves as Such," New York Herald Tribune, June 13,
1938, p. 12. 18.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich (1985), p. 53. 19.Lucy
Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945 (New York: Bantam, pb.,
1976), pp. 253-254.; Max Nussbaum, "Zionism Under Hitler," Congress Weekly
(New York: American Jewish Congress), Sept. 11, 1942.; F. Nicosia, The
Third Reich (1985), pp. 58-60, 217.; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement
(1984), p. 175. 20.H. H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine,
pb., 1984), pp. 380-382.; K. Schleunes, Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p. 226.;
Secret internal SS intelligence report about F. Polkes, June 17, 1937, in:
John Mendelsohn, ed., The Holocaust (New York: Garland, 1982), vol. 5, pp.
62-64. 21.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 63-64, 105, 219-220. 22.F.
Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 160. 23.This distinction is also implicit
in the "Balfour Declaration" of November 1917, in which the British
government expressed support for "a national home for the Jewish people" in
Palestine, while carefully avoiding any mention of a Jewish state.
Referring to the majority Arab population there, the Declaration went on to
caution, "...it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which
may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish
communities in Palestine." The complete text of the Declaration is
reproduced in facsimile in: Robert John, Behind the Balfour Declaration
(IHR, 1988), p. 32. 24.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 121. 25.F.
Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 124. 26.David Yisraeli, The Palestine
Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Bar-Ilan University, Israel, 1974),
p. 300.; Also in: Documents on German Foreign Policy, Series D, Vol. 5.
Doc. No. 564 or 567. 27.K. Schleunes, The Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p.
209. 28.Circular of January 25, 1939. Nuremberg document 3358-PS.
International Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before
the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949), vol. 32, pp.
242-243. Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression (Washington, DC: 1946-1948), vol.
6, pp. 92-93. 29.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 141-144.; On Hitler's
critical view of Zionism in Mein Kampf, see esp. Vol. 1, Chap. 11. Quoted
in: Robert Wistrich, Hitler's Apocalypse (London: 1985), p. 155.; See also:
F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 26-28.; Hitler told his army adjutant
in 1939 and again in 1941 that he had asked the British in 1937 about
transferring all of Germany's Jews to Palestine or Egypt. The British
rejected the proposal, he said, because it would cause further disorder.
See: H. v. Kotze, ed., Heeresadjutant bei Hitler (Stuttgart: 1974), pp. 65,
95. 30.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 156, 160-164, 166-167.; H.
H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine, pb., 1984), pp. 392-394.;
Jon and David Kimche, The Secret Roads (London: Secker and Warburg, 1955),
pp. 39-43. See also: David Yisraeli, "The Third Reich and Palestine,"
Middle Eastern Studies, October 1971, p. 347.; Bernard Wasserstein, Britain
and the Jews of Europe, 1939-1945 (1979), pp. 43, 49, 52, 60.; T.
Kelly, "Man who fooled Nazis," Washington Times, April 28, 1987, pp. 1B,
4B. Based on interview with Willy Perl, author of The Holocaust Conspiracy.
31.Y. Arad, et al., eds., Documents On the Holocaust (1981), p. 155. (The
training kibbutz was at Neuendorf, and may have functioned even after March
1942.) 32.On the Agreement in general, see: Werner Feilchenfeld, et al.,
Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972).; David
Yisraeli, "The Third Reich and the Transfer Agreement," Journal of
Contemporary History (London), No. 2, 1971, pp. 129-148.; "Haavara,"
Encyclopaedia Judaica (1971), vol. 7, pp. 1012-1013.; F. Nicosia, The Third
Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin: 1985), pp. 44-49.; Raul Hilberg,
The Destruction of the European Jews (New York: Holmes and Meier, 1985),
pp. 140-141.; The Transfer Agreement, by Edwin Black, is detailed and
useful. However, it contains numerous inaccuracies and wildly erroneous
conclusions. See, for example, the review by Richard S. Levy in Commentary,
Sept. 1984, pp. 68-71. 33.E. Black, The Transfer Agreement (1984), pp. 328,
337. 34.On opposition to the Haavara in official German circles, see: W.
Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (1972), pp. 31-33.;
D. Yisraeli, "The Third Reich," Journal of Contemporary History, 1971, pp.
136-139.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question, pp.
126-139.; I. Weckert, Feuerzeichen (1981), pp. 226-227.; Rolf Vogel, Ein
Stempel hat gefehlt (Munich: Droemer Knaur, 1977), pp. 110 ff. 35.W.
Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer (1972), p. 31. Entire text in: David
Yisraeli, The Palestine Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel:
1974), pp. 298-300. 36.Interior Ministry internal memo (signed by State
Secretary W. Stuckart), Dec. 17, 1937, in: Helmut Eschwege, ed.,
Kennzeichen J (Berlin: 1966), pp. 132-136. 37.W. Feilchenfeld, et al,
Haavara-Transfer (1972), p. 32. 38.E. Black, Transfer Agreement, pp.
376-377. 39.E. Black, Transfer Agreement (1984), pp. 376, 378.; F. Nicosia,
Third Reich (1985), pp. 238-239 (n. 91). 40.E. Black, Transfer Agreement,
p. 379.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich, pp. 212, 255 (n. 66). 41.W. Feilchenfeld,
et al., Haavara-Transfer, p. 75.; "Haavara," Encyclopaedia Judaica, (1971),
Vol. 7, p. 1013. 42.E. Black, Transfer Agreement, pp. 379, 373, 382.
43.Circular of January 25, 1939. Nuremberg document 3358-PS. International
Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the
International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949), Vol. 32, pp.
242-243. 44.Werner Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina
(Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972). Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen
(Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), pp. 222-223. 45.W. Feilchenfeld, et al.,
Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (1972). Quoted in: I. Weckert,
Feuerzeichen (1981), p. 224. 46.Original document in German Ausw_rtiges Amt
Archiv, Bestand 47-59, E 224152 and E 234155-58. (Photocopy in author's
possession).; Complete original German text published in: David Yisraeli,
The Palestine Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel: 1974), pp.
315-317. See also: Klaus Polkhen, "The Secret Contacts," Journal of
Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, pp. 78-80.; (At the time this offer
was made, Stern's Lehi group still regarded itself as the true Irgun/NMO.)
47.Arab nationalists opposed Britain, which then dominated much of the Arab
world, including Egypt, Iraq and Palestine. Because Britain and Germany
were at war, Germany cultivated Arab support. The leader of Palestine's
Arabs, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini, worked closely
with Germany during the war years. After escaping from Palestine, he spoke
to the Arab world over German radio and helped raise Muslim recruits in
Bosnia for the Waffen SS. 48.Israel Shahak, "Yitzhak Shamir, Then and Now,"
Middle East Policy (Washington, DC), Vol. 1, No. 1, (Whole No. 39), 1992,
pp. 27-38.; Yehoshafat Harkabi, Israel's Fateful Hour (New York: Harper and
Row, 1988), pp. 213-214. Quoted in: Andrew J. Hurley, Israel and the New
World Order (Santa Barbara, Calif.: 1991), pp. 93, 208-209.; Avishai
Margalit, "The Violent Life of Yitzhak Shamir," New York Review of Books,
May 14, 1992, pp. 18-24.; Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the
Dictators (1983), pp. 266-269.; L. Brenner, Jews in America Today (1986),
pp. 175-177.; L. Brenner, "Yitzhak Shamir: On Hitler's Side," Arab
Perspectives (League of Arab States), March 1984, pp. 11-13. 49.Avishai
Margalit, "The Violent Life of Yitzhak Shamir," New York Review of Books,
May 14, 1992, pp. 18-24.; Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the
Dictators (1983), pp. 266-269.; L. Brenner, Jews in America Today (1986),
pp. 175-177.; L. Brenner, "Skeletons in Shamir's Cupboard," Middle East
International, Sept. 30, 1983, pp. 15-16.; Sol Stern, L.
Rapoport, "Israel's Man of the Shadows," Village Voice (New York), July 3,
1984, pp. 13 ff.

SSGG - When somebody talks of shutting them down, you get three hundred
thousand "1st amendment" types jumping to the guy's defense, giving you a
class on the Bill of Rights - Jacob Baltuch, Brandeis University
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Was There Really A Holocaust? Or Just HOLOHOAX?

A  valid question regarding the HOLOHOAX, particularly now 
that the KOLLABORATION of such prominent filthy ZYDS 
such as  KASTNER, RUTKOWSKI,and WIESENTHAL  
et al is well documented and proven even by ZYDS!

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:58:17 +0000, in can.politics Jill Tyrell
 wrote:

The short answer, of course, is NO.

The "Holocaust" has given Israel a tremendous psychological advantage
over the Gentile world, particularly America and Germany. 
By exploiting the guilt complex instilled in non-Jews, 
they have obtained:

Over $65 billion in aid from Germany.
Over $55 billion in aid from America.
Israel, a prosperous country, receives $3.2 billion, (or $8 million a day) 
in foreign aid - more than any other country.
The 45,000 Jewish immigrants from Russia have the highest annual quota
after Mexico. 
They enter as "refugees" without having to prove persecution! 
As "refugees" they are automatically entitled to full
welfare benefits not subject to welfare reform cuts.
Nonstop holocaust brainwashing in schools, TV, movies and 
books has placed Israel and organized Jewry above criticism!
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Official Holocaust Figures Reduced

Immediately after World War II, Allied authorities declared that "Jews
had been gassed" in all German concentration camps. It later
discovered that the many bodies photographed in the camps died during
the waning days of the war - from typhus, cold and starvation. Simon
Wiesenthal, of the "Holocaust Center" in Los Angeles, stated in Books
and Bookmen, April 1975, page 5, "No gassing took place in any camp on
German soil." The Jew L.P. Beria headed the Soviet NKVD secret police
>from 1938 to 1953. In 1945, he announced that they had discovered a
"holocaust" of six million Jews. This conveniently occurred only in
camps in Poland! Beria would not allow any outside investigators to
examine these sites. The Jewish-owned New York Times reported in 1945
that Soviet Russia supplied the figure of four million Jews having
been put to death, "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz." However, in
July of 1990, the Polish government reduced this figure to 1.1 million
and it was accepted by Jewish groups. Despite this evidence, the
"official figure" of six million dead was not lowered to three
million!

(It should also be noted that Elizabeth Dole, president of the
American Red Cross, and wife of former Sen. Bob Dole, revealed that
the official death records from Auschwitz had been uncovered in the
Soviet Archives. It listed 70,000 deaths from all causes.)

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No Holocaust Order Ever Given

The Germans are noted for being meticulous record keepers. There was
no attempt made to destroy wartime records, 1,100 tons of which were
seized in the U.S. Zone of occupation alone. British Historian, Colin
Cross, writes in his biography of Hitler, on page 313: "There does not
exist then, anything like a written order signed by Hitler for the
extermination of the Jews in Europe."

Madagascar is a vast island off the coast of Africa in the Indian
Ocean, then owned by France. Thousands of pages of German documents
have been located providing a thorough study of the feasibility of
establishing a Jewish homeland on the island of Madagascar. Plans were
made for the reimbursement of the 25,000 French citizens who lived
there. Even the government of France studied the plan. Theodore Herzl,
the founder of Zionism, considered Madagascar a possible site for a
Jewish state. He also considered Kenya, Africa, the Sinai from the
Suez Canal to the Gaza Strip, and a huge area in southern Poland, but
they really wanted Palestine.

The German Foreign Ministry on January 25, 1939 issued a document on
the solution to the Jewish problem which stated: "The end policy in
regard to the Jews is the emigration of all Jews living in the
territory of the Old Reich."

In Auschwitz Notebooks, we read that all of the top German leadership
supported this plan. "On November 12, 1938, Goring had mentioned the
question of Madagascar. Himmler himself had dreamed of that since
1934, a witness assures us. After the armistice of June 1940
(surrender of France), the idea was propounded by the Foreign Ministry
and approved by Himmler as well as by Hitler himself."

For these reasons SS official Reinhard Heydrich organized the Central
Office for Jewish Emigration on February 11, 1939. Once the war began,
this was no longer possible. Thus Hitler ordered the internment of
Jews as enemy aliens and deported them to the east. On January 27,
1942, Hitler said: "The Jews must leave Europe. The best thing is that
they go to Russia."

Roosevelt did the same thing as Hitler by ordering 120,000 Americans
of Japanese descent living on the West Coast interned in concentration
camps. In March 1942 Roosevelt accused them of being "security risks."
The Japanese men, women and children were imprisoned behind barbed
wire fences and armed guard towers in the blazing hot desert.

The Nuremberg War Crimes Trial heard testimony from Hans Lammers as to
what he considered the "Final Solution of The Jewish Problem." Lammers
was Chief of the Reich Chancellery and personally close to Himmler and
Hitler. Lammers said he asked Himmler what was the "final solution."
Himmler replied: "The Jews must be evacuated from Germany!" He said
that Hitler told him the same thing. In other words, "The Final
Solution" was --emigration! When asked, "when did you first learn that
five million Jews had been exterminated," Lammers replied that it was
"here" at the Nuremberg trials! Herman Goring also told the court that
the first time he had heard anything about a holocaust was, "right
here at Nuremberg!"

Auschwitz was a massive military-industrial complex of 39 camps of
which 19 mainly employed Jews. The factories at the "Monowitz No. 16
Camp" alone employed 126,000 workers. Holocaust expert, Leon Poliakov
of Paris, in Breviary of Hate, page 134, in 1979 wrote that the Jewish
Warsaw Ghetto was one of the Germans' "most important supply centers.
The second in economic importance was the Lodz ghetto because it
manufactured all kinds of goods, and, in particular, its textile
industries constituted support of great value to the German economy."

Heinrich Himmler feared a typhus epidemic in the camps. Eastern
European Jews were very unhygienic and were often blamed for the
spread of typhus. On December 28, 1942, Himmler ordered that, "the
death rate in the camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source,
Reitlinger's book, The Final Solution.) On January 20, 1943, chief
inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks, answered Himmler, "Every means
will be used to lower the death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Trial
Document No. 1523.) The death rate had indeed been reduced from 8.5%
in July 1942 to 2.8% in June 1943.

On April 17, 1943, Hitler asked Admiral Horthy, regent of Hungary for,
"100, 000 Jews to work on a new pursuit plane program." (Source,
Reitlinger's book, Die Endlosung, 1956, page 478.) In May 1944 Hitler
personally ordered that 200,000 more Jews be put to work in
construction and "other important military works."

The Jews were vital to the German war industry. It would have been
counter productive to exterminate them. In fact, the SS arrested Karl
Koch, commandant of Buchenwald, for mistreating and unjustly executing
some prisoners. After being found guilty by a military court, Koch was
sentenced to death and shot. If there was actually a "holocaust" he
would have been honored instead of executed.

Shindler's List features Commandant Amon Goeth, who in reality did
abuse prisoners. However, the film fails to inform viewers that he had
been arrested by the SS and was in prison awaiting trial at war's end.
Most of the gruesome pictures of bodies we see in "made for TV"
holocaust dramas are those who died of starvation and disease during
the final chaotic months of the war. An example is Dachau. Some 54
died in January 1944 and 101 in February 1944. When food and medical
supplies could not be delivered due to Allied bombings, 2,888 died in
January and 3,977 in February 1945.

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The Impossibility of Mass Gassings
Auschwitz had no mass graves. The cremation of four million bodies
would have left 15,000 tons of ash which was never found. Many tons of
coal would have been necessary for such mass cremations. Initially,
the Soviets told conflicting stories about how the six million
perished in the camps under their control. At first they claimed that
the inmates had been "steamed" to death. On December 5, 1945, a
Communist judge issued the following "Accusation No. 6" against
defendant Hans Frank at Nuremberg:

"A large boiler for the production of superheated steam was injected
into the interior of the rooms. The doors are closed hermetically and
the long asphyxiation of the victims by the steam begins. At the
start, screams came from inside, they die down slowly; after 15
minutes, the executions are completed."

This story was not believable. It was then changed to allege that
trucks were backed up to the "death chambers" and carbon monoxide gas
was pumped into the rooms. This claim too was "forgotten" and the
Soviets then charged that the Germans changed the "steam chambers"
into "gas chambers."

The Soviets came up with a novel idea of how the Jews were
exterminated at the Belzec camp. "The Jews were ordered to undress as
though to take a bath. They were led in fact into a building that
could hold hundreds of people. The water was filled up to their necks.
Then a powerful electric current was sent into the metal flooring and
within a few seconds all the Jews, thousands at a time, were dead."

Soviet prosecutor L.N. Smirnov actually read this accusation into the
record at the December 19, 1945, session of the Nuremberg trial. This
story finally evolved to execution by "Zyklon B" gas. This was a
widely used pesticide to kill lice which was the biggest health threat
in the camps. Had the Germans actually wanted to perform mass
exterminations, they had products one-thousand times more deadly such
as Sarin and Tabun nerve gas!

Austrian Engineer Walter Luftl issued a report in March 1992, in which
he found that, "Zyklon B is utterly unsuited for the purposes of
systematic mass murder."

Fred Leuchter, America's foremost expert on executions, took a team of
investigators to Auschwitz in 1988 and reported: "I traveled to Poland
to investigate the alleged execution gas chamber facilities at the
three concentration camps of Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek. My
forensic analysis and subsequent report proves beyond any shadow of a
doubt that there were no gas execution facilities operated by the
Nazis at these sites."

Leuchter also examined the capacity of the so-called "gas chamber
building" at Birkenau. The Nuremberg Tribunal's document No. L-022
stated: "1,765,000 Jews were gassed at Birkenau between April 1942 and
April 1944." However, Leuchter found that even if used at full
capacity "only 105,688" persons could have been "gassed." His team
scraped forensic samples from brick, mortar and concrete to find
traces of cyanide compounds which would be present for centuries. They
were submitted to the Alpha Analytical Laboratories of Ashland,
Massachusetts. In March 1988, the Alpha report found that no cyanide
elements, consistent with what could be expected to be found in a gas
chamber, were present.

A retired German judge, Dr. Wilhelm Staglich said: "The extermination
thesis stands or falls with the allegation that Auschwitz was a 'death
factory.'"

Fred Leuchter's finding: "We have provided the definitive proof that
there were no execution gas chambers utilized for genocidal purposes
by the Germans at these wartime camps. The simple fact is that the
holocaust story is not true."

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How Many Jews Actually Died?
The World Almanac for 1947, in quoting figures supplies by the
American Jewish Committee states that the world Jewish population in
1939 was 15,688,259. The New York Times of February 22, 1948, stated
that the world Jewish population ranged from 15,600,000 to 18,700,000,
excluding some 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine. How could the
Jewish population have increased so rapidly after losing six million
during World War II? Walter Sanning, the author of Dissolution of
European Jewry, says that no less than 2,200,000 Jews had emigrated
out of Europe leaving 2,847,000 Jews residing there at the height of
the German occupation in June 1941. After the war, 3,375,000 Jews,
according to the Red Cross, applied for holocaust reparations. This
figure included many of the emigrants. Thus, the actual number of
those who died at the camps from all causes ranges between 150,000 and
300,000.

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"Holocaust" Silences Opposition
Hardly a week goes by without a new holocaust story in the media.
Bernard Postal wrote in Jewish Week, July 14, 1979:

"Not until the Holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There was a
time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in national
(political) campaigns. The Holocaust puts a taboo on overt
anti-Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."

Zionist spokesmen have often boasted that, "The shattering effect of
the holocaust on the Christian conscience results in a feeling of
collective indebtedness to the Jews."

The Red Cross issued a massive, three volume, 1,600 page report on the
camps after the war, part of which reads: "In the final moths of the
war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed
an increasing number of victims." ... Gen. Kaltenbrunner. . . Allowed
the Red Cross to distribute relief packages and one (Red Cross)
delegate was authorized to stay in each camp (as an observer). Does
this sound like a holocaust?

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What About Real Holocausts?
Why doesn't the film industry or news media produce documentaries
about the numerous true holocausts of Gentiles during this century
such as:

The Soviet Holocaust of Christian Russian Kulak farmers. (1924 - 1930)
- 15 million exterminated!

The Holocaust of the Ukranian farmers, (1930- 1933) - 7 million
starved to death.

The Holocaust of Russian political prisoners, (1919 - 1949) - 12
million perished.

The Pol Pot Communist Holocaust in Cambodia (1975) - 2.5 million
slaughtered.

Armenian Holocaust by the Turks, (1915) - 1.5 million people killed.

Bear in mind that the Jews are the only racial group with an
organization like the World Jewish congress which wields fearsome
power!


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